Say "YA RASOOLALLAH" (Sallallahoalyhewasallam)

qadri · #1 15-11-2007, 12:16 AM

Once I was studying Holy Quran with it's translation and commentary, I found that whole Holy Quran which revealed on Holy Prophet (Sallallahoalyhewasallam) is actually praised by Allah Subhanohoo to His Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahoalyhewasallam), this all indicates that if we recite "YA RASOOLALLAH", Allah be pleased with us, so why don't we start to recite "YA RASOOLALLAH".(Sallallahoalyhewasallam),

I have idea that few of our members do not like to recite "YA" before "RASOOLALLAH" because in their verdicts it is "Shirk", but my brother please note that in Holy Quran we recite "Ya Seen" which is also a name of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahoalyhewasallam), then why people do not object on it, so do not discuss on it here, because it is only to please Allah Taala,

So Say "YA RASOOLALLAH" (Sallallahoalyhewasallam)

geoku · #2 03-12-2007, 01:19 PM

AssalamuAlaikum

MY brother regarding your topic i want to share something and hope that you will try to understand this matter with open heart according to Quran and Sunnah rather to only emotions..

Dear you Said that in Quran there is a name .. Ya-Seen..

first of all Yaseen is only one word not two as you break up and yaseen also a name not only Seen and the meanings only Allah knows..

2ndly if i acpt yr logic then you forget to mention that when quran was revealing the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was Alive.. and for Alive person according to Arabic language and trend you can use YA... which mean a person just in front of you or listning and replying to you ..

if you travel through out Arab world you will notice the actual meaning of YA which is surely use for a person who is in front of you Alive and replying to you

In case of Prophet(peace be upon him) May be we can use YA but not in that sense that he is in front of us and listening and replying to us at a same time.. (for Example a person from US , Canada, Europe, and ASIA call YA Rasool Allah same time )

so according to your logics and belief Rasool supposed to listen and answer all the person in different continents .. so my dear this is only the Quality of Allah All Mighty who is Hazir and Nazir who can only listen and reply infinite number of peoples at a same time and reply them.

but in case of Prophet surely it is not like this niether Prophet(peace be upon him) claimed.. as he said in a Hadith

Summary "when a person recite Durood on me in front of my grave i listen and reply my self but when a person recite in other places of the world so Allah All mighty given duty to some angles who listen from them and then pass to me "

So inshort if you are using the word YA- with a concept of HAZIR and NAZIR so surely it is a SHIRK this quality is only for Allah All Mighty..

so kindly try to understand the concept rather to adopt emotions and spread wrong preaching of Islam.

wasalam

qadri · #3 03-12-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by geoku

AssalamuAlaikum

MY brother regarding your topic i want to share something and hope that you will try to understand this matter with open heart according to Quran and Sunnah rather to only emotions..

As Slamo alykum,

Dear brother, what ever I reply you here will be with open heart and exempts to emotions.
Hope you will also reply me without using hard words, we all here to discuss and to solve basic errors.

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Dear you Said that in Quran there is a name .. Ya-Seen..

first of all Yaseen is only one word not two as you break up and yaseen also a name not only Seen and the meanings only Allah knows..

Word Yaseen is amongst 14 codes between Allah and His beloved Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) means meaning of these codes are also known by Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam), like yaseen, tuha is also code and name of Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam).

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2ndly if i acpt yr logic then you forget to mention that when quran was revealing the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was Alive.. and for Alive person according to Arabic language and trend you can use YA... which mean a person just in front of you or listning and replying to you ..

if you travel through out Arab world you will notice the actual meaning of YA which is surely use for a person who is in front of you Alive and replying to you

That's what I said, Ya means a person is present, please read Holy Quran, which revealed for all time from begining to the dooms day. Quran says "Pray five times, pay zakat, perform Hajj," dear dont we do this? we do because it's order of Allah from His beloved Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam), and we all still obeying this order, because this order is for all time, and reply to this which is also in Holy Quran, "aur jub tum apni jano pur zulm kur chuko to maray habib ke paas jao, or magfrat chaho, or woh tumhari magfrat ke leye khahe to hum tumhari magfart kur degay."
We believe that Holy quran is for all time, so these words are also for all time and not for those days when Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) was in this mortal world.

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In case of Prophet(peace be upon him) May be we can use YA but not in that sense that he is in front of us and listening and replying to us at a same time.. (for Example a person from US , Canada, Europe, and ASIA call YA Rasool Allah same time )

Your objection is "Ya", well person in front of you, to be "Ya" means he is present before you, then why why we read "ya ayyutuhul Mudassiro and Ya Muzammilo" while according to your theory Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) is not alive.

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so according to your logics and belief Rasool supposed to listen and answer all the person in different continents .. so my dear this is only the Quality of Allah All Mighty who is Hazir and Nazir who can only listen and reply infinite number of peoples at a same time and reply them.

but in case of Prophet surely it is not like this niether Prophet(peace be upon him) claimed.. as he said in a Hadith
Summary "when a person recite Durood on me in front of my grave i listen and reply my self but when a person recite in other places of the world so Allah All mighty given duty to some angles who listen from them and then pass to me "

How a dead person can listen and reply, this hadith also a prove that Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) replies to all what we ask for us. because only alive people can do this, you have severally visited many graves, did you get reply from any grave, no never, but it's Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) whose hadith you qoute that he replies when we recite drood at his grave.

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so kindly try to understand the concept rather to adopt emotions and spread wrong preaching of Islam.

wasalam

I hope now you follow my verdicts to say Ya Rasoolallah. (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam)

geoku · #4 04-12-2007, 01:31 AM

AssalamuAlaikum mera bhia ...

Acha laga aap ko sun kar baat sirf itni hia ka aik baat ko maanna aur maan kar usper dut jana koi kamal nahi jub tuk ka koi daleel na ho..

ma aap ko clear kardo ka ... Quran Allah ka pyara Nabi (Peace be upon him) per nazil hoa and usper buhat sai maqamat aisa hia jaha per Allah na apna anbia ko direct mukhatib kiya jesa Ya Musa.. ya ISa. Ya Yahya.. Ya Ibraheem.. is tarah Allah na Ya Muhammad na kaha bulka aap ka sifati naam sai pukara ..

Quran aik aisi kitab hia jisko samajhna ka liya usma ghor karna zaroori hai jesa ka Allah na khud farmaya ka ya kitab unka liya hai jo sochta hian samjahtay hia andhay bun kar yakeen nahi karta...

aap english sai wakif hain per Arabic sai nahi ma batata chalo ka jesa english ma Direct and Indirect speech hoti hai isi tarah Arabic ma bhi hoti hai aur Arabic seekha bagair aap quran ko samjhna ka dawa nahi kar sakta..

aap na kaha hum YA muzamil .. YA Mudasir kyu kehta hia well ma batata chalo ka Allah na apna nabi ko mukhatib kiya aur usko Quran bana dia.... aab parhna wala usko wesa hi parha ga jesa ka parha giya hai ... jis tarah Allah na Mosa aalah-e-salam ko kaha

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"Ya musa apni naalain utar do" iska mutlab ya nahi ka aaj Hazrat mosa ko kaha ja raha hia ka utar do..

isi tarah kaha ka "aae AAG tu Ibrahim per thundi ho ja".. iska mutlab ya nahi ka aaj kaha jaa raha hai ya aaj Ibrahim aag ma hain

isi tarah ALlah na kaha : " aae nabi momineen ko jihad ka liya ubharya"

iska mutlab ya nahi ka abhi kaha ja raha hia ka ubharya woh tu bataya gia jihad ki ahmiat ko ka Allah ka nabi ko hukum hoa ka jo sahaba momineen hai unko ubharya

fir irshad hoa " aae nabi kiya agar ya log iman na laae tu aap ghum ma apna aap ko halaq kar lenga.. aap ka zima tu sirf pohchana hai "

ya sub baatain as a part of speech bataein gae... jinko aisa hi parha jaega jo us waqt ki nishandahi karti hai na ka aab ki

aap na kaha hum namaz quran zakat ky parhta hai.... bus yahi farq hai Islam ka jitna bhi arkaan ka ahkamat nazil hoa woh Hukum ki surat ma nazil hoa..

"Aur namaz qaem karo aur zakat do aur ruku karo ruku karna walo ka saath "

" aur jiski istitaat ho woh baitullah ka Haj kara"

ya sub cheeza ahkamat ki surat ma nazil hoi koi part of speech nahi jisko quote kiya giya ho bulka derect Allah na Ummat-e-Muhammadia SAW ko mukhatib kia jo zahir hia roz-e-Qayamat tuk aana wala insaan usma shamil hia is liya hum in ko follow karta hai jinki taleem Allah ka nabi na apni Hadith aur Sunnat sai ki jabhi tu ya Shariat... rehti dunya tuk hai

jub ka doosri jo batain hain jesa ka YA Allah ka nabi na uski taleem nahi ki kyunka woh uska koi taluq hi nahi tha.. woh tu sirf part of speech tha jo quran bana diya gia aur rehti dunya tuk raha ga.. aur ummat parha gi aur dekha gi ka Allah na apna nabi ko aur unsa pehla anbia aur unki ummat ko kesa mukhatib kiya kyia ahkaam tha

isis tarah quran kehta hia ka : hum na unsa kaha ka hafta wala din Shikar na karo" tu kiya aap us qanoon per chul raha ho nahi .. kyunka woh tu Bani ISrael ka lyia tha aur hu ko as a part of speech bataya giya

tu Allah na isi tarah apna Nabi ki shaan biyan ki aap SAW namaz parhta tha raat ko itni ka paaon soojh jatay tha Allah na ... doosri taraf.. uthna ka hukum diya aap chadar ma tha.. aur ummat ko apna nabi ki shaan samjhai...

iska mutlab ya nahi ka aaj unko uthna ka kaha ja raha hai ya aaj unko kaha jaa raha hia .... kaha tu us waqt giya per hum ko bataya gae taaakay hum apna nabi ki shaan samajh saka...

per hum na usko alug rung hi de diya Ya ko pakra aur IShq ka daromadar hi usper qaem kar dala.... kiya Allah ka nabi ki koi hadith dikha sakta hia sahih riwayat sai.. ka aap na hukum diya ho ka mera baad me ko YA kehna... ya jo na kaha woh AASHIQ nahi Ya sahaba ka dor ki aik riyawat dikha dein ka Sahaba ma ya ikhtilaf ho ka kuch tu YA kehta ho aur kuch nahi.... nahi aisa kahi nahi mila ga kyu ka unka iman hamari tarah nahi tha na hi aqeeda ....

jaha tuk bat hia ALIVE Ki.... tu hamesha rehna wali zaat tu sirf Allah ki hia .. jo hamesha sai hai aur hamesha hi raha ga...jo HAzir bhi hia aur nazir bhi .. jaha tuk baat ki aap na hadith ki tu Hadith tu sahih hia aur batana ka maqsad bhi yahi tha ka jo nazaria is YA ko lekar paida kiya giya woh is hadith sai ghalat sabaith ho jata hia..

Allah ka nabi apni qabar ma hayath hai ya nahi ... mera khyal ma mujh sai aur aapsa ya sawal nahi poocha jae ga hamari qubro ma.. haan per agar shirk kiya hoga tu uski pakar hia namaz nahi parhi tu pakar hia Allah ka ahkaam ko tora tu jawab dena hia ... Allah ka nabi ki sunnat sai moo mora tu halakat hia ...

per sunnat per tu amul karta nahi hum aur saara zor hai isper ka ma YA bolo tu pakka aashiq nahi tu astughfirullah muslim hi nahi manta ma aap ki nahi per aik aam concept ki baat kar raha ho..

so barah-e-meharbani jub bhi quran ka reference da tu tehqeeq kara ka aap kiya keh raha hia aur kyu keh raha hai.. sirf jazbat ma jaha jaha quran ma YA dikha aap na quote kar dala .. pehla Arabic zuban ki samajh tu paida kara.. bus humko jo batadiya giya woh hum na sun lya aur andha behra ho kar gir pera.. mera dost Quran is cheez ka mukhalif hia woh tu soch aur fikar ki dawat deta hia

umeed ha baat kuch samajh ma ae hogi

wasalam

qadri · #5 04-12-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by geoku

AssalamuAlaikum mera bhia ...

Allah ka nabi apni qabar ma hayath hai ya nahi ... mera khyal ma mujh sai aur aapsa ya sawal nahi poocha jae ga hamari qubro ma.. haan per agar shirk kiya hoga tu uski pakar hia namaz nahi parhi tu pakar hia Allah ka ahkaam ko tora tu jawab dena hia ... Allah ka nabi ki sunnat sai moo mora tu halakat hia ...

per sunnat per tu amul karta nahi hum aur saara zor hai isper ka ma YA bolo tu pakka aashiq nahi tu astughfirullah muslim hi nahi manta ma aap ki nahi per aik aam concept ki baat kar raha ho..

so barah-e-meharbani jub bhi quran ka reference da tu tehqeeq kara ka aap kiya keh raha hia aur kyu keh raha hai.. sirf jazbat ma jaha jaha quran ma YA dikha aap na quote kar dala .. pehla Arabic zuban ki samajh tu paida kara.. bus humko jo batadiya giya woh hum na sun lya aur andha behra ho kar gir pera.. mera dost Quran is cheez ka mukhalif hia woh tu soch aur fikar ki dawat deta hia

umeed ha baat kuch samajh ma ae hogi

wasalam

Bhot khushi hui k aap dilchuspi ke saath baat aage brha rhe hay, Insha Allah hum zaroor ksi nateezay pur phonch jaengay.

SHIRK Shirk kahtey hay Allah ki zaat may ksi ko shareek krna, or koi muslman aisa naheen krta, jo krta hay woh muslman naheen hay, hum alhamdolillah Allah ko ek mantay hay sirf usi ko sajda krtay hay, whi rub hay jisney tmam anbya or rasool or hum sub ko peda kya, (Hum nauzobillah Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ko sajda naheen krtay.

FARQ
Tmam Anmbya w Rasool or doosray tmam bando ki peda krne me bhot farq hay, bazahir to woh sub bhi hamari trah ma ke pet se nikltey hay, laikeen hum matti say banay haiy or woh sub noor say. Uoo to Allah nay jitnay b log dunya m aaengay un sub ki rooho ko peda kur chuka hay, unki mot ka waqt likh chuka hay, laikeen jin ko noor say peda krna hay unmay akhri nabi Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam), ke baad ub ksi ko nabuwaat naheen milay gi. Allah nay Adam Alyehslam ko bgair ma baap ke peda kur ke dekha dya, Essa Alyehslam ko bgai baap ke or Bibi Hawa ko Adam Alyehslam (Murd) se peda kur ke dekha dya, woh sub kuch kur skta hay, yeh sub hamay kisnay btaya, quran utra
Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) pur laikeen usko tafseelan hamay smjha kisnay, or woh hum sub hadeeth say maloom krtay hay.

TEEN SWAL Aap ne likha hay qabr may namaz ka pucha jaega, huzoor Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ka naheen, bhai barai mehrbani yeh bhi sabaq yaad krlo, k sub say phle munkar nakeer hum say teen swal kray gay or woh yeh hay: (1) Ma Rabboka (Tumhara Rub kon hay) (2) Ma Deenoka (Tumhara Deen kya hay) (3) Is sukhsh Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ke baray may aap kya jantay hay (Us waqt qabr may Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) aap kay samnay hongey or aap ko uska jwab dena hoga.

Ub btaye ek waqt may dunya may kitnay log mur jate hay, muslman ho ya kafir, dfna day ya jla dalay, ya drya may doob jae, sub ko nakeerain yehe teen swal krtay hay, or uskay baad hi jnnat or jhannam ka faisla hota hay, dekay allah nay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ko kitni taqat say nawaza hay, is ka yeh matlab naheen kay woh mazallah Allah jitni taqat rakhtay hay, Allah kay paas apni taqat hay, or usnay apnay pyaray Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ko besh bha taqat ata ki hui hay. Yeh Farq hay

Allah mujhe maaf kray agar mujh say glti ho rhi ho, aap dekay quran may jgha jgha Allah Taala apne habib Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ko kha hay ke, "Tum ne naheen Dekha, hum ne Hati Walo ke saat kya, kya" (Surah Feel) or beshumar muqamat pur isi trah pukara.

Bhla batae yeh kse mumkin hoskta hay ke ek sukhsh mojud hi naheen peda hi naheen hua to Allah nay kse kha, is ka matlab hay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) us waqt mojud they, woh sub dekh rahe they, isi leye quran may woh baat btali gai, halankay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) us waqa ke 40 deen baad dunya may tashreef laye, or 40 saal baad quran nazil hua, to ksi se yeh kha jae ke tum ne naheen dekha to iska matlba woh whan mojud tha, (Alam tra kaifa) tra ke maine hay dekha (Lun tra ni) yeh alfaaz moosa say khe gye they ke "Aay Moosa tum na dekh sko gay"

HOLY QURAN N AHADETH Aap ek baat note kur lay, manay ya na many, mera farz hay logo tuk baat phonchana, agar mujh say glti ho to beshuk aap mujhe bataye, may zaroor us ko shi kur loonga or Allah say Maafi mang loonga.

Mera pehla swal, Kisnay btaya ke Allah hay? (Iska jwab hay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) nay)

Doosra swal, kis nay kha yeh quran Allah ki kitab hay? (sub yeh khay gay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) nay)

Teesra swal, kis trah namaz purhni hay, zakat deni hay, hujj or umrah krna hay? (Hamay yeh Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ne batai hay ke is trah namaz purhni hay, 4 subh, 10 zohar 8 asar 7 maghrib or 17 isha, acha is may kya purhna hay? hur phli rkat may Fateha zaroor purhni hay, baad may soorat milani hay , rku may prhna nay, sajda do krnay hay, tahshud may kuch prhna hay, slam pher kur namaz mukammil krni hay, kya yeh sub kuch quran may likha hay.

Maray bhai, beshuk may quran ko naheen smajh ska, laikeen hum sub yeh kunkrtey hay,

resolution · #6 04-12-2007, 06:52 PM

BISMI ALLAHI ALRRAHMANI ALRRAHEEMI

Islam Quran-o-Hadith ka naam he. Iss liay jab Islam ki baat ki jayay to daleel bhi di jayay ta-k perhanay walay ko itminaan ho sakay k ye Islam ki baat ker rahay hain na-k apni. Umeed he k ainda baat kernay k saath saath hawala bhi dia jaayay ga.

Mohammed Saleem bhai, aap nay kuch batein likhi hein jin ko mein tasleem nahein ker paa raha kiunki aap ne daleel nahein di. Iss liay aap se guzarish hai k aap un baton ki daleel dai dein.
Sub se pehli baat aap ne ker di k aap ne Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ko noor kaha indirectly, to bhai iss ka hawala Quran-o-Hadith se???
Doosri baat yeh hai k aap ne kaha k qabar mein Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) humaray samnay hoon gay aur humein uss ka jawaab daina ho ga jo farishton ne poocha ho ga, to bhai iss baat ka hawala dein Quran-o-Hadith se k Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) uss waqt humaray saamnay layay jayein gay???

Umeed hai k mujhay jald jawab milay ga aap ki taraf se. Agar jawaab nahein he aap k pas to aap ko yeh baatein nahein kehni chaheyein.

geoku · #7 05-12-2007, 01:57 AM

AssalamuAlaikum:

mera bhia aap ki baat ko sun kar acha laga per ya tasur mila ka aap sahayd ya samajh raha ha ka ma Quran per tu belief karta ho per Hadith per nahi NaaAaaoozubillah.. aisa nahi hai Alhumdullilah ma Allah ki kitab and Allah ka nabi SAW ki hadith per yaken rakhta ho jabhi ma na ap ko hadith ka refernce bhi diya per aap ko baat samajh aae nahi aaur aap baat ko kisi aur taraf hi le gae..

kher meri arz thori lambi hai umeed hia aap puri parha ga ka imaan ka liya ya time bhi kum hia

baat shru hoi thi Ya-Rasool Allah sai lakin kuch aur baatain nikli jinka jawab dena munasib samjhta ho

aap na likha SHIRK ka bara ma ka Shirk kehta hia Allah ki zaat ma kisi ko shareek karna??

ma batata chalo Shirk us ko kehta hia ka koi Allah ki zaat ya uski Sifaat ma kisi ko shareek kara ya uska barabar ya hissadaar tasawur kara woh shirk hoga jisko Allah na apna Quran aur Allah ka nabi na Apni hadith sai buhat achi tarah samjhaya hia doosri umat aur ambia ki misal dekar

Example: Allah farmata hia quran ma " ka aur Gaeb ka khazany Allah hi ka paas hia aur koi nahi janta"

isi tarah buhat sai maqamat per farmaya " ka Allah ka siwa koi gaeb ka ilm nahi rakhta"

yaha tuk ka apna nabi sai kehalwaya " ma tum sai ya nahi kehta ka mera pas gaeb ka khazanay hia ya ma apna nafa ya nuksaan ka malik ho meri taraf tu bus jo WAHI ki jati hai ma woh pohuncha deta ho "

mera bhia ya hai Allah ka QURAN and Allah ka nabi na apni sunnat aur hadith sai buhat clear kardia aur zahir hai Hadith and Quran ma conflict ho hi nahi sakta .

per agar koi shaks aab kaha ka Allah ka nabi ko gaeb ka ilm tha tu zahir hia usna Allah ki sifaat ma shirk kiya aur uski ya baat Quran sai conflict kar gae.. aur Quran ki aik aayat ka inkaar ya pura quran ka inkaar Islam sai kharij kar deta hia... ya tu tha sifat ma shirk

aab aap na kaha Nabi aam insaan nahi hota.. bulka aap ka concept batata hia ka nabi insaan hi nahi hota..woh tu NOOR Hia...

ma aap ko batata chalo Allah na Quran ma baar baar is cheez ko bhi wazay kia kyu ka woh Aalim ul gaeb hai aur woh janata hai ka aana wala dor ma kiya fitna hona wala hia tu usna apna nabi sai hi kehalwa diya ka woh basahr hai aab agar koi Quran ki aayat ka samnay apni aqul larana shru karda tu us sai bara Jahil koi nahi hoga ka usko quran ki aayat kafi nahi lagi.

Noor ka mutlab Light hai Allah farmata hain

هو الذى جعل الشمس ضياء والقمرنورا
"Allah is the being who created the sun bright and the moon noor". Quran

"woh Allah hai jisna Suraj and chaand ko Roshan(Noor) banaya"

jaha jaha bhi quran ma Allah na NOOR word use kyia apna Nabi ka liya us sai murad ya nahi hai ka NABI NOOR sai paida ho giya us sai murad woh Roshni and woh Noor-e-Hidayat hia jiski badolat log Gumrahi sai nikalta hia aur Falah ka raasta pata hai Allah ka nabhi woh NOOR hia jis ki roshni Kufr ka andhero sai nikal kar Iman ki roshni per gaamzaun kar deti hai uska Hargiz mutlab ya nahi ka Nabi Insaan nahi Noor hia aap Quran ka mutala kara.... aap ko wazay do tok alfaz ma bataya jae ga ka Allah ka nabhi Matti sai paida hoa woh bhi aulad-e-Adam hai aur yahi tu unki shaan hia ka woh Afzalul Bashar hai jin ko noorani makhlooq yani farishto per fazeelat aur yahi tu unka kamal hia ka ka woh Insano ka liya hi Example hia kyunka woh insaan tha

Jesa ka Hazrat Ibrahim ki dua thi ka " aae Allah tu meri aulad ma sai nabi bhej " aur Ibrahim ki aulad bhi beshak insan hia insaan hai

phir quran na farmaya" aur hum na tumhi ma sai aik rasool bheja jo hamari aayat ki tilawat karta hai...."

HUM HI MA SAI... yahi tu Shan-e-Muhammad hai ka woh Bashar tha aur Allah na unko woh maqam aata kiya jo kisi insaan ko na mila na mila ga.. agar woh Noor hota tu mera bhia fir tu ya aizaaz hi khatum ho jata.. kynka Insaan kul roz-e-Qayamat kaha ga ka woh tu noor tha aur hum bashar hum unka itiba kesa karta.. umeeed hia aap ko baat samajh ma aae hogi ...

ma aap ko yaad dilana chaho ga HAzrat ISa (peace be upon him) ka .. ka christan ka ya belief hai ka ISA NaAaozubillah Allah ka beta hia .. haan ya shirk hai kyu .. kyunka Beta jo hota hia woh woh maa baap ka jisum sai bunta hia uska hisa hota hia unka khoon sai bunta hia .. tu mutlab unho na Allah ki zaat ma hi shirk kar diya .. tu Kafir Tehra

jub koi kehta hia Allah na NAbi ko apna Noor sai banaya.. ya jesa kaha jata hia Noorum min NooriAllah...... Allah ka noor ma sa noor.. tu bhia pehli baat ka is baat ki nafi Allah na khud hi Surah Ikhlaas jo Tauheed ki zamin hia kerdi ka " Na usma sai kuch bana na woh kisi sai" ya " Na woh kisi ka baap ha na kisi ka beta"

tu Noorum Min NooriAllah tu Khula shirk ho gia ka kehna wala na Allah ki zaat sai hi mansoob kar diya tu uski Zaat ma kisi ko shamil karna SHIRK hai ...

yahi waj ahia ka Allah na baar baar quran ma bataya ka TUm hi ma sai...bashar khud nabi sai kehalwaya yaha tuk kehalwa diya ka Mislukum

قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ

" Aae Muhammad Keh deejia ka Ma Tumhari tarah ka hi insaan ho" (Al-Kahf-110)

aur Allah na farmaya

قَدْ جَاءَكُمْ مِنَ اللَّهِ نُورٌ وَكِتَابٌ مُبِينٌ

"aur tumhara paas Allah ki Hidayat(NOOR) aur Kitab aachuki"(Al-Maidah-15)

yaha per is noor sai murad woh hidayat hai jo Allah na Muhammat (peace be upon him) ki surat ma nazil ki jo hidayat ka sur chashma hai isi liya is noor ko Kitab-e-mubin ka saath bataya ka woh noor (hidayat aur roshni hia ) is kitab ko samjhana is per amul karka dikhana ka liya .. kyunka hum na tumhi ma sai aik rasool bheja hai jo hamari aayat tilaway karta hia tm ko kitab ki taaleem deat hia aur tazkia karta hai

mera bhia mera liya tu samjhna aur iman laana ka lia Allah ka quran ki ya aayat aur uska nabi ki hadith aur uska tareeqa hi kafi hai is liya is per aab aur behas karna munasib nahi kyunka mera kaam tu batana hai Hidayat tu Allah ka paas hai jesa usna apna nabi ko bhi farmaya tha ka "aae nabi aap ka zima tu sirf pohunchana ha"

AAB aik important baat aap na kaha ka ma na kaha ka Qabar ma NAbi ka bara ma sawal nahi hoga... billkul ghalat... ma na aisa nahi kaha.. ma na ya kaha ka humsa ya sawal nahi hoga ka nabi apni qabar ma zinda hain ya nahi...baki jo aap na sawal likha woh tu beshak honga... aur waki nisbat-e-nabi ka bagair tu kuch mumkin hi nahi is sai kon inkari hai tu barah-e-meharbani pehla baat ko ghor sai parha fir aaga quote kara.

aab jaha tuk baat hia Qabar ma zinda hia ka nahi.. tu Allah na zameen per haram kar diya hia ka woh Anbia ki aur Aulia ka jismo ko khae... aur ma na tu khud hi hadith naqal ki thi tu aap ka sawal bilawaja hai ...

doosra ya ka beshak Allah ka Nabi apni qabro ma zinda honga.. per zahir hia ya woh zindagi nahi hai jiska aqeeda aap bata raha hia.. ka aab bhi hamara darmiyan chalta firta honga.. wesa hi kaam karta honga.. sarasaur ghalt aqeeda hai ...iska liya ma aap ko quran ka reference dooga Allah farmata hai

" Khabardaar jo log Allah ki raah ma maara jae unko Murda gumaan bhi mut karna , Woh zinda hia PER TUMKO UNKI ZINDAGI KA SAHOOR NAHI"

ya hai Allah ka quran beshak isi tarah anbia bhi zinda honga per mera bhia humko unki zindagi ka shaoor na hi diay giya hia na hi bataya gia hai aur na hi kaha gia ka isper behas karo.. yahi waja hia ka aap Allah ka nabi ki koi aik aisi Hadith nahi paish kar sakta jo Sahih ho aur aap ka aaqeeda ko sahih sabit karda ka Allah ka nabi na Ya taaleemm di ho ka mera baad me ko zinda samajhna.. me ko Noor kehna bashar nahi... aisa kahi nahi milta..

haan per ya zaroor milta hia ka Allah ka nabi na farmaya

"Kahabar daar mera baad meri qabar ko mela gaah na banana"

aur milta hia ka aakhri dor ma farmaya ka khabar daar mera baad mera baray ma aisa guman na karna jesa bani israel apna anbia ka bara ma kar bethi thi.. aur khabar daar meri qabar ko majma gah na banana

ya wohi dur tha jo aakhri time Allah ka nabi ko apni ummat ka liya tha isi liya aakhir time bhi ummat ko ya taqeed ki ka

summary
"ma tumhara darmiyan do cheeza chora jaa raha ho aik Quran aur doosri meri Sunnat inper inko mazbooti sai thaama rehna tu falah pao ga .. sedha raasta per raho ga .. gumrah na hoga"

kiya sunnat-e-nabwi ma aap ko in aqaed ki taleem milti hai jo aap biyan kar raha hia nahi mil hi nahi sakti kyunka Allah ka nabi ki Sunant quran sai conflict nahi kar sakti

isi liya tu aap sai kaha Quran ka mutala karo.. Namaz ka hukm quran ma mila Allah ka nabi na taleem di Zakat ka mila taleem di .. huj ka mila taleem di Jihad ka mila Taleem di Roza ka mila Taleem di.. PArda ka mila taleem di.. Akkarat ka mila taleem di.. Shadi talaq ka mila taleem di... Shirk ka mila taleem di tijarat ka bataya.. yaha tuk ka zindagi ka tamam shoba ka zikar kiya taleem di practical karka dikhaya... tu fir ya kesa ho sakta hia .. ka Allah ka nabi hia Islamic Aqaed ki taaleem na di ho NaAaaozubillah ya tu Ilzaam hoga....

per nahi kyunka jin Aqaaaed ka aap zikar kar raha hia woh us zamana ma tha hi nahi na hi woh sahaba ka dor ma aae yaha tuk ka Islam ki 6 Sudyo ma iski koi misal nahi milti 6 sudyo baad ya fitna India ka brelwi tought na paida kyia aur aaj isko ummat ka fitna bana dala.... jis sai ummat ko waki buhat nuqsaan hoa hia.. meri baat thori karwi zaroor hia per agar aap iski haqeeqat ko samjha ga tu nahi laga gi.. ka Allah ka nabi ka dor sahaba ka dor and fir Islam ki 6 agli sudya Allah ka nabi ko bashar .. Allah ko aalimul gaeb.. samajhti rahi aur fir achanak nabi Noor ho gae.. tu kia woh saray sahaba woh saray musalman .. jo is doran ya aqeeda hi nahi rakhta tha .... ghalat ho gae.... nahi nahi haqeeqat tu ya hai ka ya woh log tha jinko khud Allah kehta hia

"ka ma unsa razi hoa aur woh mujh sai"

tu mera bhia jis cheez ka zikar Allah ka nabi na nahi kia aur karta bhi kyu.. kyunka aisa kuch tha hi nahi quran saaf saaf gawahi de raha tah Allah ka nabi ki bat kesa conflict kar sakti hai ....

tu behtar hai hum un aqaed ko mana jo Quran-o-sunnat sai milta hia jo shirk sai paak hai jo sahaba ki zindagi sai milta hia ...

kyunka Allah sub kuch maaf karda ga per shirk nahi ka woh jurm-e-Azeem hia

wasalam

geoku · #8 05-12-2007, 02:09 AM

Aap ka sawal ka mukhtasir jawab

Mera pehla swal, Kisnay btaya ke Allah hay? (Iska jwab hay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) nay)

Doosra swal, kis nay kha yeh quran Allah ki kitab hay? (sub yeh khay gay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) nay)

Teesra swal, kis trah namaz purhni hay, zakat deni hay, hujj or umrah krna hay? (Hamay yeh Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ne batai hay ke is trah namaz purhni hay, 4 subh, 10 zohar 8 asar 7 maghrib or 17 isha, acha is may kya purhna hay? hur phli rkat may Fateha zaroor purhni hay, baad may soorat milani hay , rku may prhna nay, sajda do krnay hay, tahshud may kuch prhna hay, slam pher kur namaz mukammil krni hay, kya yeh sub kuch quran may likha hay.

SubhanAllah pehla tu aap ka sawal sai ya meko laga ka sahayd ma na kaha ho ka ya sub humko khud hi pata chul gia.. Zahir hia bhia ma tu baar baar keh raha ho ya taleem ALlah ka mehboob nabi na hi humko di hai ... chala acha hoa aap na ya baat ki ..

doosri baat Allah ka taruf sirf Muhammad(peace be upon him) na nahi karaya bhai..

ya woh taruf hai jiska aagaaz Hazrat-r-Adam sai start hoa aur 1 lac 24 hazar kamo besh anbia sirf Allah ka taruf aur uski tauheed hi biyan karna aae

baki hamari jitni bhi shriat hia woh Allah ka nabi SAW na hum ko taaleem di

tu kia aap ko us shariat us taaleemaat jo Hadith ki surat ma mojood hai .. aap ko usnki taaleem milti hai jin aaqaed ka zikar aap kar raha hai.. koi Aik Sahih Hadith dikha dain ka Allah ka nabi na Sahaba ko jama kiya ho aur kaha ho... ka khabardaar me ko insaan na samjho me ko Noor kaho.. ma Murna ka baad bhi zinda raho ga.. mera paas ilm-e-geab hia ma Hazir-o-Nazir raho ga jub tum me ko pukaro ga tu ma tumhari madad ko aaoga..

Nahi bhia ya taleem tu nahi milti haan ya milti hai quran and hadtih dono sai.. ka Allah ka nabi na bataya .. ka ma BASHAR ho.. Gaeb ka khazanay Allah ka paas hia .. mera pass tu jo WAHI ki jati hai ma uska itiiba karta ho aur tum tuk pohuncha deta ho.. aur ma Allah hi sai madad maangta ho.. kyunka "mera Allah Mera lia kaafi hai" aur yahi surah fatiha ma bhi taaleem di .. "aae Allah hum teri hi ibadat karta hia aur tujh sai hi madad maangta hai "

aur quran nabi ki zindagi ka bara ma hi nahi sub ka bara ma sirf aik verse kehta hia ka " Kulu nafsin Zaaeqatul moat "Hur nafs na moat ka maza chakna hai"

iska baad koi behas ho hi nahi sakti kyunka hamesha zinda rehna wali zaat tu sirf Allah ki hai jo hamesha sai hai aur hamesha raha ga

ya hian woh awaed jo quran bhi batata hia hadith bhi aur sahaba ki zindagi bhi jo mera khyal ma ummat ka liya kafi hai and Alhumdulilah ummat per Allah ka bara karam hai ka usna hamari rehnumae farmae aur Quran-o-Snnat ko hamara liya mehfooz kardiya hamari hidayat ka liya :-)

S@NI · #9 05-12-2007, 02:26 AM

qadri · #10 05-12-2007, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farooq hasan

BISMI ALLAHI ALRRAHMANI ALRRAHEEMI

Islam Quran-o-Hadith ka naam he. Iss liay jab Islam ki baat ki jayay to daleel bhi di jayay ta-k perhanay walay ko itminaan ho sakay k ye Islam ki baat ker rahay hain na-k apni. Umeed he k ainda baat kernay k saath saath hawala bhi dia jaayay ga.

Mohammed Saleem bhai, aap nay kuch batein likhi hein jin ko mein tasleem nahein ker paa raha kiunki aap ne daleel nahein di. Iss liay aap se guzarish hai k aap un baton ki daleel dai dein.
Sub se pehli baat aap ne ker di k aap ne Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ko noor kaha indirectly, to bhai iss ka hawala Quran-o-Hadith se???
Doosri baat yeh hai k aap ne kaha k qabar mein Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) humaray samnay hoon gay aur humein uss ka jawaab daina ho ga jo farishton ne poocha ho ga, to bhai iss baat ka hawala dein Quran-o-Hadith se k Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) uss waqt humaray saamnay layay jayein gay???

Umeed hai k mujhay jald jawab milay ga aap ki taraf se. Agar jawaab nahein he aap k pas to aap ko yeh baatein nahein kehni chaheyein.

SURE WHY NOT

Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 23:
Funerals (Al-Janaa'iz)
Volume 2, Book 23, Number 422:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "When a human being is laid in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their foot steps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask him: What did you use to say about this man, Muhammad ? He will say: I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle. Then it will be said to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell-Fire. Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' " The Prophet added, "The dead person will see both his places. But a non-believer or a hypocrite will say to the angels, 'I do not know, but I used to say what the people used to say! It will be said to him, 'Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Quran).' Then he will be hit with an iron hammer between his two ears, and he will cry and that cry will be heard by whatever approaches him except human beings and jinns."

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 456:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "When (Allah's) slave is put in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their footsteps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask, 'What did you use to say about this man (i.e. Muhammad)?' The faithful Believer will say, 'I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle.' Then they will say to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell Fire; Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' So he will see both his places." (Qatada said, "We were informed that his grave would be made spacious." Then Qatada went back to the narration of Anas who said;) Whereas a hypocrite or a non-believer will be asked, "What did you use to say about this man." He will reply, "I do not know; but I used to say what the people used to say." So they will say to him, "Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Quran)." Then he will be hit with iron hammers once, that he will send such a cry as everything near to him will hear, except Jinns and human beings. (See Hadith No. 422).

qadri · #11 05-12-2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairnas

Holy Quran is for all time, if Allah ones order than it is fard for all to obey all time,
therefore when He orders to pray five times daily in given time, pay zakat ones in a year and offer
Hajj ones in a life and keep fasts in every Ramdhan, so Allah's orders never changed and if it is in quran
means it is fard.

Like the above the following verses are also forever, means for beg forgiveness of Allah we must approach
Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam), first read what Allah says:

SURAH AL-NISA-4 Madina. 24 Sections. 176 Verses.

THE WOMAN

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate the Merciful.

SECTION: 9

64. And We have not sent any messenger, but that he should be obeyed by Allah's will. And if when they do injustice unto their souls, then O beloved! They should come to you and then beg forgiveness of Allah and the messenger should intercede for them then surely, they would find Allah Most Relenting, Merciful.

(Therefore we in believe that Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) is alive, and He hears and knows
each and everything of His Ummah)
(We all in believe that Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) arrived in this world
as Human to teach His Ummah from His chilhood to 40 years before revealed of Holy Quran then 23 years
as Massenger, there after He departed to His eternal place)
(Look Allah has said in Holy Quran "and have sent Him", and who should be sent? who is already
present before Him.)

SURAH AL MOZAMMIL-73 Mecca. 2 Sections. 20 Verses.

SECTION: 1

The Enwrapped One

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful.

1. O the enwrapped one!

SURAH AL-MUDATHTHIR-74 Mecca. 2 Sections. 56 verses.

The Mantled One

SECTION: 1

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful

1.O the mantled (a coverlet) one;

Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) was present when elephant incident was
happend, read the following verses,the incident was occurred 40 days before the arrival of
Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam)

SURAH AL-FIL-105 Mecca. 1 Section. 5 Verses.

The Elephant

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful.

1. O beloved! Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with the men of the Elephant?

Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) is diffrent from other human being,
read the following verses:

SURAH AL-INSHIRAH-94 Mecca. 1 Section. 8 Verses.

The Expansion

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful.

1. Have We not expanded your B R E A S T?

2. And removed from you, your burden,

I hope the above verses now sufficient for one who is in believe of positive approach.

resolution · #12 05-12-2007, 08:07 PM

BISMI ALLAHI ALRRAHMANI ALRRAHEEMI
Mohammed Saleem bhai maine aap se 2 sawaal poochay thay magar aap ne un mein se aik ka jawaab dia aur wo b sahih nae, kiunki sawaal kisi aur cheez k baray mein tha aur hawalay aap ne kisi aur cheez k dai diyay.
Hazoor (sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam) noor thay ya bashar, iss baat ka jawab 'geoku' sahib ne dai diya. Iss ka jawab ab nae chaheyay.
Magar doosray sawal k jawaab ka abhi bhi mein muntazir hoon, aur wo sawaal mein dobara likha daita hoon k aap ne kaha:

Quote:

Originally Posted by qadri

Aap ne likha hay qabr may namaz ka pucha jaega, huzoor Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ka naheen, bhai barai mehrbani yeh bhi sabaq yaad krlo, k sub say phle munkar nakeer hum say teen swal kray gay or woh yeh hay: (1) Ma Rabboka (Tumhara Rub kon hay) (2) Ma Deenoka (Tumhara Deen kya hay) (3) Is sukhsh Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ke baray may aap kya jantay hay (Us waqt qabr may Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) aap kay samnay hongey or aap ko uska jwab dena hoga.

Iss baat ka jawab k Hazoor (sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam) uss waqt humaray samnay hoon gay, mujhay aap ki di hue un donon hadithon mein nae mila. barayay meharbani iss se mutallik hadith dein nae to apni post edit ker k iss sentence ki durustagi karein.

qadri · #13 05-12-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farooq hasan

Iss baat ka jawab k Hazoor (sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam) uss waqt humaray samnay hoon gay, mujhay aap ki di hue un donon hadithon mein nae mila. barayay meharbani iss se mutallik hadith dein nae to apni post edit ker k iss sentence ki durustagi karein.

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 456:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

(Allah's Apostle said, "When (Allah's) slave is put in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their footsteps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask, 'What did you use to say about this man (i.e. Muhammad)?' The faithful Believer will say, 'I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle.' Then they will say to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell Fire; Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' So he will see both his places." (Qatada said, "We were informed that his grave would be made spacious." Then Qatada went back to the narration of Anas who said;) Whereas a hypocrite or a non-believer will be asked, "What did you use to say about this man." He will reply, "I do not know; but I used to say what the people used to say." So they will say to him, "Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Quran)." Then he will be hit with iron hammers once, that he will send such a cry as everything near to him will hear, except Jinns and human beings. (See Hadith No. 422).)

Aap kahtay hay ke is ahadees may naheen sabit hota k Muhammad hamaray samne hongey, to aap batae Holy Prophet ka istrah khna aap ke nazdeek kya hay?

baqi doosray two swals ka to woh may hadith ki book may se tlash kr ke composing krke aap ko hzoor zroor pehs kur doonga, doosra aap ko sabit kr doonga ke holy prophet noor they, ek baat batau Holy prophet ka saya na tha, maloom hay us ki wajah kya thi, is leye ke sooraj roshni fenkta hay, is leye hamara saya hota hay, or hzoor noor they is leye noor se noor tkra kur ek ho jate they. sub se bri baat hzoor ne apni ankho se allah ko dekha, or qyamat tuk koi aankh allah ko naheen dekh sake gi, na ksi me taqat, yhan tuk ke allah ne prophet moosa ko b kha tha "Lun Trani" a moosa tum mujhe naheen dekh sktay, halnakey moosa b prophet they, laikeen muhammad ki azmat sub prophets s brh kur hay.

Insha Allah jse hi ahadees ki composing ho jaegi yhan paste kur doonga, laikeen itna bta du, manay ge aap fir b naheen, yeh mera tjrba hay.

espams · #14 06-12-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qadri

Holy Quran is for all time, if Allah ones order than it is fard for all to obey all time,
therefore when He orders to pray five times daily in given time, pay zakat ones in a year and offer
Hajj ones in a life and keep fasts in every Ramdhan, so Allah's orders never changed and if it is in quran
means it is fard.

Like the above the following verses are also forever, means for beg forgiveness of Allah we must approach
Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam), first read what Allah says:

SURAH AL-NISA-4 Madina. 24 Sections. 176 Verses.

THE WOMAN

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate the Merciful.

SECTION: 9

64. And We have not sent any messenger, but that he should be obeyed by Allah's will. And if when they do injustice unto their souls, then O beloved! They should come to you and then beg forgiveness of Allah and the messenger should intercede for them then surely, they would find Allah Most Relenting, Merciful.

(Therefore we in believe that Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) is alive, and He hears and knows
each and everything of His Ummah)
(We all in believe that Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) arrived in this world
as Human to teach His Ummah from His chilhood to 40 years before revealed of Holy Quran then 23 years
as Massenger, there after He departed to His eternal place)
(Look Allah has said in Holy Quran "and have sent Him", and who should be sent? who is already
present before Him.)

SURAH AL MOZAMMIL-73 Mecca. 2 Sections. 20 Verses.

SECTION: 1

The Enwrapped One

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful.

1. O the enwrapped one!

SURAH AL-MUDATHTHIR-74 Mecca. 2 Sections. 56 verses.

The Mantled One

SECTION: 1

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful

1.O the mantled (a coverlet) one;

Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) was present when elephant incident was
happend, read the following verses,the incident was occurred 40 days before the arrival of
Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam)

SURAH AL-FIL-105 Mecca. 1 Section. 5 Verses.

The Elephant

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful.

1. O beloved! Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with the men of the Elephant?

Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahotaalalayhewasallam) is diffrent from other human being,
read the following verses:

SURAH AL-INSHIRAH-94 Mecca. 1 Section. 8 Verses.

The Expansion

Allah in the name of the Most Affectionate, the Merciful.

1. Have We not expanded your B R E A S T?

2. And removed from you, your burden,

I hope the above verses now sufficient for one who is in believe of positive approach.

Asslamualikum wa-rehmatullah

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoku

"Ya musa apni naalain utar do" iska mutlab ya nahi ka aaj Hazrat mosa ko kaha ja raha hia ka utar do..

isi tarah kaha ka "aae AAG tu Ibrahim per thundi ho ja".. iska mutlab ya nahi ka aaj kaha jaa raha hai ya aaj Ibrahim aag ma hain

ya sub baatain as a part of speech bataein gae... jinko aisa hi parha jaega jo us waqt ki nishandahi karti hai na ka aab ki

"Aur namaz qaem karo aur zakat do aur ruku karo ruku karna walo ka saath "

" aur jiski istitaat ho woh baitullah ka Haj kara"

ya sub cheeza ahkamat ki surat ma nazil hoi koi part of speech nahi jisko quote kiya giya ho bulka derect Allah na Ummat-e-Muhammadia SAW ko mukhatib kia jo zahir hia roz-e-Qayamat tuk aana wala insaan usma shamil hia is liya hum in ko follow karta hai jinki taleem Allah ka nabi na apni Hadith aur Sunnat sai ki jabhi tu ya Shariat... rehti dunya tuk hai

'qadri' Sahib, lagta hai aap ne in baton ko perha hi nahin. Jo baat Allah ne Nabi(saw) se ki wo likh di gayee, Jab wo hayaat thay to un se mukhatib ho k frmaaya jaata tha, aur wo quran likh dya gya. jisay 'geoku' ne apni post main kaafi achay andaaz main byaan kr dya hai. Is ke ilaawa aap mazeed jannay kelye Sahih Bukhari ki Hadeeth No. 6265 ka bhi mutale'a kr saktay hain jo neechay aa rahi hai.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoku

per hum na usko alug rung hi de diya Ya ko pakra aur IShq ka daromadar hi usper qaem kar dala.... kiya Allah ka nabi ki koi hadith dikha sakta hia sahih riwayat sai.. ka aap na hukum diya ho ka mera baad me ko YA kehna... ya jo na kaha woh AASHIQ nahi Ya sahaba ka dor ki aik riyawat dikha dein ka Sahaba ma ya ikhtilaf ho ka kuch tu YA kehta ho aur kuch nahi.... nahi aisa kahi nahi mila ga kyu ka unka iman hamari tarah nahi tha na hi aqeeda ....

Ji bikul, is tarha ki baat hamain kabhi bhi Sahaba-e-karaam se nahin milti. Balkay ,

Abdullah-bin-Masud(ra) frmatay hain :
"Rasool-Allah (saw) ne mujhay Tashhud sikhaaya ... "Attehyaatu lillahe wassalawaatu watayibatu aslaamulaika ayuha-nabiyo ... ". Aap(saw) us waqt hayaat thay. Jab aap ki wafaat ho gayee to ham is tarha pehanay lagay "Asslaamu ala-nabiya" yani Nabi(saw) per salaam ho"
[Sahih Bukhari : 6265]

Is Hadeeth se saabit ho jaata hai k Sahaaba-e-karaam bhi Nabi(saw) ko Hazir-o-Nazir nahin jaantay thay. Laikin Namaaz ko usi tarha parha jaay ga jis tarha Nabi ne Bataya.
"Aur namaaz usi tarha parho jis tarha mujhay parhtay dekhto ho"
[Sahih Bukhari : 6008]

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Originally Posted by qadri

Tmam Anmbya w Rasool or doosray tmam bando ki peda krne me bhot farq hay, bazahir to woh sub bhi hamari trah ma ke pet se nikltey hay, laikeen hum matti say banay haiy or woh sub noor say.

Hawaala/daleel darkaar hai...?

Jab-k,

Hazrat Muhammad(saw) k Bashar honay ki daleel :

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Originally Posted by geoku

yahi waj ahia ka Allah na baar baar quran ma bataya ka TUm hi ma sai...bashar khud nabi sai kehalwaya yaha tuk kehalwa diya ka Mislukum

" Aae Muhammad Keh deejia ka Ma Tumhari tarah ka hi insaan ho" (Al-Kahf-110)

Aur Baaqi Anbiya(as) k Bashar honay ki daleel :

"Kya tumhain unki khabar nahin pohanchi jo tum se pehlay thay, (yani) qaum-e-Nooh aur Aad aur Samood aur jo un k baad huay? jinhain sirf Allah jaanta hai? Un k paas un k Rasool khuli nishaanyaan laay to unhon ne apnay haath apnay munh main daba liye ... (9) Un k Rasoolon ne kaha: kya (tumhain) us Allah ki baabat shak haijo aasmaanon aur zameen ka paida krnay wala hai? ... wo kehnay lagay: tum hamaray jaisay bashar hi to ho, ...(10) Un k Rasoolon ne un se kaha: Wa-qaae hum tumhaaray jaisay bashar hi hain, laikin Allah apnay bandon main se jissay chahta hai us pr ehsaan krta hai...(11)" [Surah Ibrahim 14:9-11]

Allah in main naa-sirf yeh bata raha hai k wo saaray k saaray bashar thay balkay un logon ki is Guftagu ko Nabi(saw) ke saamne bhi byaan kr rah hai ta-k Nabi(saw) bhi us waqt honay wali is guftagu ko jaan lain jis ka Nabi(saw) ko ilm nahin. Mazeed yeh k Qaum-e-Nooh aur Qaum-e-Aad aur Qaum-e-Samood ka zikr krnay k baad Allah frmata hai ke un k baad bhi qaumein aaeen jin ka zikr tk aap(saw) se nahin kya gya, unhain to sirf Allah jaanta hai.

Umeed hai aap ko aap ke sawaalon k jawaab mil gaye hon gay.
laikin,

manay ge aap fir b naheen, yeh mera tjrba hay.

Asslaamualikum.

resolution · #15 07-12-2007, 08:26 PM

BISMI ALLAHI ALRRAHMANI ALRRAHEEMI

Maire post ko ghoor se aur baar baar perheyay ga takay masla wazeh ho jayay. Mein bayan ker daita hoon, agay aap per hai k aap mantay ho ya nahein mantay. Aur aap ne mairay baray mein kaha k mein maanoon ga nahein kiunki ye aap ka tajarba hai, to bhai aisi koi baat nahein hai, mein InshAllaah manoon ga, magar aap ki baat nae balkay Allaah aur Uss k Rasool (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ki baat manoon ga. Issi liay aap se kehta hoon k hawala dein, to mein mananay ko tayyar hoon.

aap ne aik ayat paish ker k kuch samjhanay ki koshish ki the, jis ko mein tasleem nae ker paa raha kiunki aik aur ayat hai Quran ki jo isi ayat jaisi hi hai. To jaisay aap ne yeh wali ayat samjhae, usi tarha ye bhi samjha dein. Mein aap ki batae hue ayat aur doosri wali ayat yahan nakal ker raha hoon.

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Originally Posted by qadri

aap dekay quran may jgha jgha Allah Taala apne habib Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) ko kha hay ke, "Tum ne naheen Dekha, hum ne Hati Walo ke saat kya, kya" (Surah Feel) or beshumar muqamat pur isi trah pukara.

Bhla batae yeh kse mumkin hoskta hay ke ek sukhsh mojud hi naheen peda hi naheen hua to Allah nay kse kha, is ka matlab hay Muhammad (Sallallahotalaalyhewasallam) us waqt mojud they, woh sub dekh rahe they, isi leye quran may woh baat btali gai

“kia kaafiron ne nahein daikha k bay-shak aasmaan aur zameen baaham milay huay thay, phir Hum ne un donoon ko alag alag ker dia, aur Hum nay paani se har zinda shay banae, kia phir wo emaan nahein laatay?”
[Surah Anbiya, 21:30]

Kia jis tarha aap k mutabik Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) uss waqt wahan mojood thay, to usi tarha ye kafir bhi uss waqt wahan mojood thay jab Allah ne aasmaan aur zameen ko alag alag kia tha?

aik aur baat aap ne kahi the jis ka mein ap ko batayay daita hoon, aap ki baat nakal ker k neechay jawab dai raha hoon.

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Originally Posted by qadri

Aap kahtay hay ke is ahadees may naheen sabit hota k Muhammad hamaray samne hongey, to aap batae Holy Prophet ka istrah khna aap ke nazdeek kya hay?

Bhai jab insaan iss daar-e-faani say apna waqt-e-muqarrar khatam ker k qabar ki aaghoosh mein pohanchata hai to uss se Munkr-e-Nakir jo sawalat kertay hein un mein se aik sawal Nabi (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k mutallik bho hota hai, kaha jata hai: “tu iss mard k mutallik kia kehta hai?” agar aadmi eemaan-daar ho to uss ka sahih jawab daita hai aur agar kafir ho to kehta hai: “mein nahein janta.” Laikin mairay bhai kisi sahih hadith mein ye mazkoor nahein k aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) khud tashreef laatay hein ya Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ki soorat wahan paish ki jati hai jisay daikh ker aur ishaara ker k farishtay kehtay hoon: “tu iss mard k mutallik kia kehta hai”.
Mulla Qari (rahimahullaah) ne mishkaat ki sharah mirqat mein likha hai:

“kaha gaya hai k mayyat k liay parda hata dia jata hai yahan tak k wo Nabi (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ko daikhata hai. Agar ye baat sahih ho to momin k liay bari azeem khush-khabri hai (k wo Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ki ziyarat ker laita hai) laikin hum nahein jantay k koi sahih hadith iss baray mein marwi hai.”

[Mirqat Sharah Mishkaat, 1\24]

Imam jalaal-ud-deen suyuti (rahimahullaah) raqamtaraz hein:

“hafiz ibn-e-hajar asqalani (rahimahullaah) se sawal kiya gaya: ‘kia mayyat k liay parda hata diya jata hai hatta k wo Nabi Kareem (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ko daikhata hai?’ to unhon ne jawab diya: ‘ye baat k mayyat k liay parda hata diya jata hai aur wo Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ko daikhata hai, kisi hadith mein marwi nahein. Baaz logon ne ghair-mustanad baton se istadlaal kiya hai jo qabil-e-hujjat nahein siwayay iss qool ‘haaza rrajul’ k aur iss mein iss k mutallik koi daleel nahein. Iss liay k haaza ism-e-ishaara yahan zehan k liay hai.”

[Sharah Sadoor, 60 ‘ Marqah, 1\340]

Haaza ism-e-ishaara se istadlaal durust nahein kiunki hazoor 2 qisam ka hota hai. Aik hazoor zehni (tasawwurati) aur doosra hazoor shakhsi, yahan hazoor zehni murad hai shakhsi nahein. [mirqat al-mfateh, 1\340]
Iss k ilawa Quran mein kutub-e-ahadeeth mein aisi kae misalein mojod hein k haaza ism-e-ishaara ko ba’eed k manoon mein istimal kia gaya hai aur ye zaroori nahein k jis ki taraf haaza ka ishaara ho wo paas hi mojood ho. Quran mein mazkoor hai k farishtay jab Hazrat Luut (‘alaihissalaam) ki qoom ko halaak kernay k liay tashreef layay to pehlay Hazrat Ebrahim (‘alaihissalaam) k paas hazir huay. Unhoon ne aamad ka sabab daryaaft kiya to wahan farishton ne jawab diya:

“hum (haazeh) iss basti k bashindon ko halaak kernay walay hein kiunki ye zalim hein.”

[Surah Ankabut, 29:31]

Luut (‘alaihissalaam) sadoom aur Ebrahim (‘alaihissalaam) falasteen mein thay. Basti sadoom paas mojood nahein thi laikin farishtay ‘haaza’ ka ishaara ker k kehtay hein kiunki sadoom Ebrahim (‘alaihissalaam) aur farishton k zehan mein tha. Isi tarha sahih bukhari mein hai k harqul nai bait-ul-muqaddas mein jab Hazrat Abu Sufyaan (may Allah be pleased with him) se Rasool (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k mutalik pocha gya to kaha:

“tum mein se (bi-haaza) iss aadmi k nisbi lihaaz se koon ziada qareeb hai.”

[Sahih Bukhari, Hadith#7]

Issi rawayat mein ye bhi mojood he: “mein Abu Sufyaan (may Allah be pleased with him) se iss shakhs (yani Mohammed (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k) haalaat poochta hoon” muraad ye hai k jab bait-al-muqaddas mein Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k mutallik guftagu hue to Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k liay ‘haaza’ ka lafz istimal kia gaya. Aur bait-ul-muqaddas madina se takreebun 810 meel k safar per hai to la-mahala ye tasleem kerna paray ga k yahan ‘haaza’ ism-e-ishaara hazoor shakhsi k liay nahein balkay hazoor zehni k liay bola gya hai kiunki Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) guftagu k waqt wahan mojood na thay. Issi tarha sulah hudaibiya mein Badil Bin Wrqaa’ mushrikeen-e-makkah ki taraf se sharait sulah nama tay kernay k liay safer bun ker aya aur guftagu ker k wapis makkah pohancha to us ne kaha:

“hum tumharay paas (haaza) iss aadmi se hoo ker aayay hein.”

[Masnad Ahmed, Hadith#18166, (Mubashar Ahmed Rabbani)]

Hazrat AbuZar Ghaffari (may Allah be pleased with him) ne jab Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ki nabuwwat ka charcha suna to tehqeeq-e-haal k liay apnay bhai ko bhaija aur kaha:

“tu (haaza) ii ski taraf sawar ho aur mujhay (haaza) iss aadmi k baray mein malumaat faraham ker.”

[Sahih Bukhari, Kitaab Al-Mnaqib, Hadith#3861]

Iss qisam ki kae misaalein kutub-e-ahadeeth mein mojood hein k haaza ism-e-ishaara ko ba’eed aur hazoor-e-zehni k liay istimaal kia gaya he.
Issi tarha jo qabar mein Rasool Akram (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k mutallik sawal kia jata he aur uss mein lafz haaza musta’mmil he wo bhi hazoor-e-zehni k liay he jaisa k uuper hafiz ibn-e-hajar asqalaani (rahimahullaah) k hawalay se guzar chukka. Aur Allah sab se behtar janta he, Alhamdulillah.

aik aur baat bhi aap ne tehreer ker dali jis k baray mein bhi mein aap ko bata daita hoon. Neechay aap ki baat nakal ker k uss ka jawaab likh raha hoon.

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Originally Posted by qadri

ek baat batau Holy prophet ka saya na tha, maloom hay us ki wajah kya thi, is leye ke sooraj roshni fenkta hay, is leye hamara saya hota hay, or hzoor noor they is leye noor se noor tkra kur ek ho jate they.

Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) Allah k barguzeda nabi aur insaan thay. Allah ne aap ko silsila-e-insaaniat hi se paida kia tha aur insaan honay k etibaar se ye baat aya_n he k insaan ka saaya hota he. Quran mein Allah ne irshaad farmaya:

“aur jitni makhlooq aasmaanon aur zameen mein hein khushi aur na-khushi se Allah k aagay sajda kerti he aur un k saayay bhi subh-o-shaam sajda kertay hein.”

[Surah Raad, 13:15]

Aik aur maqaam per farmaya:

“kia unhoon ne Alllah ki makhluqaat mein say kisi ko bhi nahein daikha k uss k saayay dayein aur bayein se lot-tay hein. Yani Allah k aagay aajiz ho ker sar-basajood hotay hein.”

[Surah Nahl, 16:48]

In donoon aayat se maloom hota hai k zameen-o-asmaan mein Allah ne jitni makhlooq paida ki hai un ka saaya bhi hai aur Rasool Allah bhi to Allah ki makhlooq hein lihaaza Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ka bhi saaya tha. Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k saayay k mutallik kae ahadeeth mojood hein:

Hazrat Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) farmatay hein k aik raat Nabi Kareem (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) nay humein namaaz perhae aur namaz ki haalat mein apna haath achanak aagay berhaya magar phir jald hi peechay hata lia. Hum ne arz kia: “aay Allah k Rasool! aaj Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ne khilaaf-e-ma’muul namaz mein aik naya amal kiya hai.” Aap (sallalahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ne farmaya: “nahein, balkay baat ye hai k mairay samnay abhi abhi jannat paish ki gae, maine uss mein behtareen phal daikhay to ji mein aaya k uss mein se kuch uchak loon magar foorun hukam mila k peechay hat jao, mein peechay hat gaya phir mujh per jahannum paish ki gae “us ski roshni mein maine apna aur tumhara saaya daikha” daikhata hi maine tumhari taraf ishaara kiya k peechay hat jao.”

[Mustadrik Hakim, 4\456 (Mubashar Ahmed Rabbani)]

Aik hadith mein hai:

“Hazrat Zainab aur Hazrat Safya (may Allah be please with them) aik safar mein Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k saath thein, safya (may Allah be pleased with her) k paas aik oont tha aur wo bemaar ho gaya jab-k zainab (may Allah be pleased with her) k paas 2 oont thay. Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ne farmaya: “tum aik zayid oont safya (may Allah be pleased with her) ko dai do.” To unhoon ne kaha: “mein uss yahoodia ko kiun doon?” iss per Rasool Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) naraaz ho gayay. Takreebun 3 mah tak zainab k paas na gayay hatta k zainab mayoos ho ker apna samaan bandh liya.

Hazrat Zainab (may Allah be pleased with her) farmati hein: “achanak daikhati hoon k dopahar k waqt Nabi Kareem (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) ka saaya aa raha hai.”
[Masnad Ahmed, 6\132 ‘ Tabqaat-ul-Tubra, 8\127 ‘ Majma’-ul-Tawaid, 4\323 (Mubashar Ahmed Rabbani)]

la-mahala Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) k saaya tha. Agar jism-e-atthar ka saaya-e-mubarak na tha to kia jab Aap (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) libaas pehantay thay to aap k malbosaat ka bhi saaya na tha. Agar wo kapray itnay lateef thay k un ka saaya na tha to phir un k pehananay se satar waghaira ki hifazat kaisay mumkin ho gi?
Lihaaza in aqli aur naqli dalail k khilaaf ye bay-aqli ki aur bay-sanad batein fil-haqeeqat kuch haisiyat nahein rakhtein. Aur Allah sab se behtar jaanta hai, Alhamdulillah.

Hazoor (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) noor thay ya basher iss k baray mein to Allah ne Quran hi mein wazahat ker di jaisa k janab ‘geoku’ ne bohat piyaray andaz mein bayan ker dia. To aap kahan se dalail layein gay? Khair agar phir bhi aap ko koi daleel milti he to mujhay uss se zaroor aagah ker dijeyay ga aur ‘geoku’ bhai ne jo ayat paish ki hein un ko samjha bhi dijeyay ga, InshAllaah mein apni islaah ker loon ga. Magar ahtiyaat kijeyay ga k ahadeeth maqbool hoon mardood nahein. Aisa na honay payay k aglay dil mein un ki asnaad ki tehqeeq aap ko paish ker raha hoon. Lihaza ap tehqeeq ker k ahadith naqal kijeyay ga takay aap per mujhay eetibaar rahay k Mohammed Saleem bhai maqbool ahadith hi paish kertay hein. Allah humein seedhay raastay per chalnay ki tofeeq ata farmayay, aameen.

geoku · #16 08-12-2007, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by qadri
Tmam Anmbya w Rasool or doosray tmam bando ki peda krne me bhot farq hay, bazahir to woh sub bhi hamari trah ma ke pet se nikltey hay, laikeen hum matti say banay haiy or woh sub noor say.

Qadri bhia chala aab ma aapko doosra tareeqa sai samjhana ki koshish karta ho kyunka aap na qurani dalael ko reject kar diya hai and Tauheed ka us sabaq ko bhi nahi maan raha jo Surah Ikhlaas de rahi hia ....

Lum Yalid Walum Youlid

"na usma sai kuch bana aur na woh kisi ma sa" (Al-Ikhlaas Verse-3)

chala aae aab hum thora zamana nabuwat ki taraf chalta hia Allah ka Nabi SAW NAbuwat ka ailan karta hia.. Kufar makkah Hazoor ki mukhalfat karta hai .... aur Sub sai pehla Ikhtilaaf KUFAR-E-MAKKAH ya karta hia ....jisko Quran na nakal kiya ma apni baat nahi kar raha

Summary: " ka aik aisa shaks jo khata bhi hai peeta bhi hai libas bhi pehanta hia shadi bhi karta hia bacha bhi paida karta hia garz ka zindagi ka saray mamlat ma aam insano ki tarah hia Allah na usko NABI kesa banadiya"

ya tha kufar ka pehla aitiraaz jo aap bhi kar raha hai bus andaaaz mukhtalif hai aap bhi NABBI ka INSAAN hona ka qael nahi aur woh Kufar-e-Makkah bhi nahi tha

doosri jaga Quran batata hai Kufar-e-MAkkah na kaha

SUmmary:
" ka agar tum nabi ho tu tumhara saath farishta kyu nahi hum ko dikhae deta... ya Farishta ko nabi kyu nahi banaya giya"

ya hai doosra Aitiraz.. woh bhi is baat ka qael tha ka.. pait sai paida hona wala AUlad-e-Adam jo Afzalul Bashar hia woh Nabi nahi hota . Nabi tu Noorani Makhlooq hoti hai jesa ka Farishta..

Aap ka Aqeeda bhi yahi kehta hia jo unka keh raha hia.

aab sunya in sawalo ka jawab bhi Allah na apna isi Quran ma diya ... agar aap usko khol ker parha tu..

Summary:

" Agar hum zameen per farishta bhejta ya farishta reh raha hota.. tu hum nabi bhi Farishta ko bana ker bhejta"

doosri jaga irsaahd hoa

" ka hum na jitna NABI bhi bheja woh Insano ma sai hi tha"

ya hai Quran ka jawab jo Allah ki kitab hia aur bur huq ALlah ka nabi SAW per nazil hoi jo hum ko bata rahi hia ka NABI insaan hi hia farishta ya noori MAkhlooq nahi hia...

tu aap kitni hi kamzor daleel kyu na le aaen.. Quran ki aayat ko challenge nahi kar sakta aur hamara liya tu Quran ki ya aaayaat hi kafi hai agar socha aur samjha kyunka quran per tu wohhi log amul karta hai jo sochta and samajhta hia usma ghor karta hia Andha bun kar nahi gir jatay...

Jaha tuk baat rahi Foqiat ki.. tu ya hum sub ka hi imaan hia ka Allah ka Nabi SAW ko doosra Anbia per fazeelat hai aur uski wajah bhi biyan ki ka aik tu aap Khatamun Nabiyeen hai.. doosra Imam ul Anbia hian teesra.. Shafa-e-Roz-e-MEhshar hian ... Teesra aap ko kosur aata ki gae jo is sai pehla kisi nabi ko nahi aata ho ..chota.. aap per Allah na apna deen ko mukamal kia... apni laraib Kitab ka nazool kya.

tu ya wajoohat hia fazeelat ki... per iska mutlab ya nahi ka aap us foqiat ma.. doosra anbia ki tazeem kum karda ya aisa jumla istimaal kara jo doosra anbia ka darja kum karda..... hurgiz nahi aap na shayad Quran ka mutala nahi kya jo Aqaed ki durustagi ka liya buhat zaroori hai

aaeya ma ap ko Surah bakara ka aakhir ruku ma lekar chalta hoo..

"Aammanar Rasoolo bima unzila ilehi mir rabihi wul moominoon. Kulun aamana billahi wa malaekatihi wa kutubihi wa Rusulihi, LA NUFARIKU BAINA AHADIN MIR RUSULIH, Wa qaalo samaena wa attana gufranaka Rabbana wa ilekul maseer." (Surah Bakara verse 285)

"jo cheez Allah ki taraf sai Rasool per Nazil hoi hia (yani Quran) usper Rasool ko aur momineeen ko pura Aqeeda hai, sub ka sub Allah per uska, Uska farishto per,uski kitabo per, aur uska rasoolo per aqeeda rakhta hia, AUR HUM ALLAH KA RASOOLO MA SAI KISI MA TAFREEQ NAHI KARTA, aur un sub na yahi kaha ka hum na aap ka kalam suna, hum na khushi sai itaat ki, hum teri bakhshish chahta hia, aae hamara Rub aur aap hi ki taraf lotna hia" (Surah Bakara verse 285)

umeed ha ka aap na aayat ko baghor parha hoga.. jee haan ya hia Qurani Aqeeda jo Allah muslimeen ko bata raha hian apna Nabi SAW ka zareeya jisper amul kiya bagair iman nahi laya jaa sakta.

tu aab aap jawab da Quran tu ya aqeeda sikha raha hia ka "LA NUFARIKU BAINA AHADIN MIR RUSULIH," aur maaf keejia hamara aas paas buhat sa afraad aur Ullema.. jo apna aap ko Quran ka aalim bhi kehta hia woh is cheez ki dawat bhi de raha hia aur keh bhi raha hia ..jesa ka aap na bhi kaha ka tamam Anbia aur rasoolo ka aur Nabi SAW ka paida karna ma farq hai .. arey bhia ya farq kisna bata diya aap na Quran tu La Nufariku ki sada laga raha hia aur aap ka aala hazrat .... na tu yaha tuk kehalwa diya ka SUB SAI AALA OOA AULA HAMARA NABI

beshak jesa ma na pehla kaha ap SAW ko degar anbia per fazeelat hai aur uski wajah bhi batae per.. iska hukum humko diya hi nahi giya.... ka hum farq karna bhet jaae aur bila shuba jo bhi farq kara ga. woh us aqeeda per nahi hia jo QURAN bata raha hia tu uska iimaan Allah hi janay kyunka Quran ka aqeeda per imaan lae bagahir momin hona mumkin hi nahi...

aab ma aap ko HAzoor SAW ki aik hadith ka batata ho aap Hadith parha hia tu shayad aap na ya bhi suni hogi

summary:
" mujhay mera bhia Younis per bhi fazeelat na do"

ma aap ko batata chalo Younis Aleh salam machli ka pait ma chala gae tha uski waja ya thi ka jub logo na unki dawat per iman na laya tu woh dil bardahta ho gae aur tableegh chor di tu Allah na saza ka tor per... machli ko hukum dia ka unko nigal la.. so wohi hoa and then unho na ALLAH sai dua ki taubah ki tu nijat paae..

Allah ka nabi na farmaya me ko Younis sai bhi afzal na samajh lena ya hia mera Nabi ki Shaan and saadgi jis ko ya ummat aaj samjh hi nahi rahi

Umeed karta ho aap ko meri baatain kuch tu samajh per aaen hongi.. mera bhia Quran kholo SUnnat ka mutala karo Sahaba ki zindagi ko dekho... saray sawalo ka jawab mil jae ga. hur shaks jo apna aap ko aalim kehlae woh aalim nahi hota.. aur ho bhi kesa jiska khud ka aqaed Quran sai hi na milta ho..

aab aap ki aik aur baat ka jawab aap na aik aayat ka hawala diya ka "jub tum apni jaano per zulum kar betho tu mera Nabi ka paas aajao........"

jee haan hukum tu yahi hai... tu kiya aab hum Hujra Nabi ka rukh kara.. is aayat ki roshni ma jesa ka aap na dalleel di ka Nabi tu zinda hai fir... per kaha hia is ka jawab kon dega...

ma batata ho Quran ki tafseer samajhna buhat zaroori hai kyunka ghor kiya baghair aisi hi batain ki jaengi jesa aap na ki.... kyunka Allah khud isi quran ma farmata hia ka.. ma isi Quran sai buhat so ko hidayat deta ho aur buhat so go gumrah
jis na ghor-o-fikar kiya woh hidayat paagiya jisna nahi woh nahi

is aayat ka mutlab hia ka jub tum apni jaano per zulum yani Gunnah kar betho aur zahir hia woh jub hi karo ga jub mera nabi ki Taleemaat uski sunnat aur jo kitab usper utri yani Quran us sai moo mor loga usko chor doga.. tu Gunnah gaar ho jaoga.. tu mera nabi ki taraf aana taubah ka lya.. mutlab ka mera Nabi ki taaaleemat ko mazbooti sai thaam lena meri kitab jo ma na Apna mehboob SAW per nazil ki hia jiska practical mera RAsool khud hai uski zindagi per aajana.... tumhari taubah ho jaegi aur tum falah ka raasta per aajao ga.

ya hai is ayat ka mafhoom jo aap na kisi aur daleed ma hi use kar diya jo ghalat hia

jesa ka Allah na farmaya

" aur Allah ki itat karo aur uska rasool ki"

" tumhara liya Rasool SAW ki zindagi ma behtareen Namoona hai "

aur aik jaga farmaya mafhoom hia ka agar tum Allah ki khusnoodi uski Mohabbat chahta ho tu uska Nabi ka Itiba karo..

ITIBA... na ka IBADAT.. jo aaj kul ka aqaed ka zaria ho raha hia woh nabi ki shariat ka itiba nahi mera bhia woh IBADAT ho rahi hia jo shirk ka darja tuk pohunch chuki hia...

agar Allah ki khusnoodi Chahiya tu uska nabi ki taleemat per amul karo uski zindagi per amul karo uski sunnat ko pakro na ka uski shaksiyat ki hi ibadat karna lago.. jesa ka aaj ho raha hia aur beshak Islam Shaksiyat parasti ka deen nahi hai na hi Allah ka nabi SAW na iski taleem di hai

tu bus yahi guzarish hia fazool ki behas sai behtar hia jo sahi aqaed hai usko maan lo quran na bataya jo uska RAsool SAW na samjhaya aur amul karka dikhaya usper chalo yakeen mano Allah ka kalam gawahi deta hia tum Falah paoga aur agar us raasta per nahi chala tu gumrahi hi gumrahi hia na tu shirk ma farq pata chala ga na hi doosri cheezo ka

isi liya hum 6th kalma ma Allah sai dua karta hia ka "Aae Allah hum ko hur chupa aur khula shirk sai bacha"

meri bhi yahi dua hia ka Allah sari ummat ko sahi islami aqaed aata kar aur ya jo bhi gumrah Aqaed hia jis sai ummat gumrah ho rahi hia beshak hum gawahi deta hia tera nabi SAW na uski taaleem nahi di aur unho na tu humko saaf aur sacha rasta dikhaya hia jo Falah ka raasta hia

hum ko usper chalna aasaan kar aameen
wasalam

qadri · #17 08-12-2007, 11:40 PM

THE HOLY PROPHET (SALLAL LAAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM) IS NOOR

We are living in a world of uncertainty and misconceptions. Man is beginning to question the very roots of his beliefs about Allah Almighty and the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim, to create doubt in the minds of the simple and un suspecting Muslims.

Here is proof from QUR'AN, Ahadith-e-Nabawi (Sallallaho Alaihi Wasallam), Sayings of Sahab-e-Kiram and from the writings of great and authentic scholars of Islam which show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Messenger of Allah Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim is NOOR.

Tere Nasle Paak me he bacha bacha Noor ka
Too he Aine Noor tera sub gharana Noor ka

The Aqida of the Ahle Sunnat Wa Jama'at is that Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is Nur (Light) and human. The being and existence of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is even before that of humans but when he came into this world he came in the garb of a human. It should be noted that originality does not change by the changing of a garb. Just as Hadrat Jibraeel Ameen (Alaihis Salaam) is Nur but when He used to go before Hadrat Maryam (Alaiha Salaam) he used to be in the form of human. Concerning this Almighty Allah states in the Holy Quran:

"Thus He used to appear before her in the form of a healthy (well built) man"

In the Ahadith of Mishkaatul Masabih, Narration has been made by? The second khalifa of Islam Hadrat Umr Farouk (radi Allahu anhu). He states:

"Once? we were in the presence of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). A man came to us. The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) asked Hadrat Umr Farouk (radi Allahu anhu), "Do you know who that person was? Hadrat Umar Farouk (Radi Allahu anhu) said, "Almighty Allah and His beloved Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) know better." The Prophet (Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said, "That is Jibraeel (Alaihis Salaam)." (Mishkaat - ul - Masabih - Bukhari Shareef)

It is obvious that the Sahaba referred to Hadrat Jibraeel (Alaihis Salaam) as a man since they had seen him the
form of a human being. Black hair, hands, legs, eyes, ears and a nose. All these are human qualities yet it is
obvious that he is not human but an Angel who is nur/noor. As it is well known to the people of knowledge that in the hadith it has come many a time? about how Hadrat Jibraeel (Alaihis Salaam) came into the court of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) as a Human. On many instances he came in the form of Sahabi e Rasool Hadrat Wahia Kalbi (Radi Allahu anhu). This has also been proven by one of the so called knowledgeable persons of the wahabi jamaat :

"And verily Allah has informed us that the Angels came to Hadrat Ebrahim (alaihis salaam) in the form of human and the angels appeared before Hadrat Maryam (alaiha salaam) in the exact human form and Hadrat Jibraeel (alaihis salaam) used to come before the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the form of Hadrat Wahia kalbi and in the form of a villager and the people used to always see him this way." (Al Furqan bainal Awliyah ur Rahman wa shaitaan, page 41)

What the HOLY BOOK (Qur'an) have to say about this subject:

ALLAH Ta'aala Says in the Holy Quran:

1. "Surely, there comes from ALLAH a Light and a illuminated Book" (Al-Quran, Al-Maidah - 15)

The Imam of all the Mufasireen of the Ummahe Muhammadi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Hadrat Abdullah ibn Abbas (radi Allahu anhu) has stated concerning the Tafseer of the ayat He states:
"Surely, there comes from ALLAH a Light, refers to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)." (Tafseer ibn Abbas pg 72 - Published Egypt)

(More References: Sharah Shifa Shareef - page 42 Vol 1, Tafseer-e-Kabeer Vol 3 page 348, Tafseer Ibn Jareer
Al-Tibri Vol2 page 161)

2. "Disbelievers desire to extinguish ALLAH's Light, with their mouths. But He will not allow that except to flourish this light, though the disbelievers do not like it" (Al-Quran, Al-Tawba - 32)

3. "O communicator of Unseen, We did not send you, but as a present and seeing, a bearer of glad tidings and a warner as one who invites people towards ALLAH, by his permission, and as a lamp spreading light"

4. "ALLAH, is the Light of Heavens and the Earth. The parable of His Light is like a Niche, within it is a lamp and that lamp is in a glass and that glass is like a brilliant star" (Al-Quran, Al-Noor - 35)

All these verses of Holy Quran indicates that Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) was created from NOOR (Light) by ALLAH Ta'aala.

What the Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) himself have to say about this subject:

1. Pupil of Imam Malik and the teacher of Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal and Hafizul Hadith Abdul Razzak Abu Bakr Bin
Hamman, the teacher of the teachers of Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim, in his Book "Musannaf", has narrated from Hazrat Jabir bin Abdullah Ansari and his son (radi Allahu anhum), that he asked the Holy Messenger of ALLAH Ta'aala (Peace Be Upon Him)

"O Prophet of Allah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) ! My parents be sacrificed upon you, What did the Almighty Allah first create?" The Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) replied: "Allah first created my Noor (Light) of His Noor. This Noor traveled about according to the Will of Allah. At that time, there was no Heaven, Hell, Lawh (Divine Tablet), Pen, Earth, Skies, Sun, Moon, Jinn or Human Beings. When He decided to create, He divided that Noor into four parts. From one part He created the Pen, from the second, the Lawh and from the third, he made the Arsh Throne). He divided the fourth part into a further four parts. From one, He created those Angels who carry the Arsh, from the second, the Kursi (Divine Chair) and from the third, He created the Angels. He again divided the remaining parts into a further four parts. From one, He created the skies. The second was used in creating the planets. From the third, Heaven and Earth were created. Once again, He divided the fourth part into a further four parts. From one part He created the power with which the believers see. From the second, He created in the hearts of the Believers the Noor of Marifat. From the third, He created in the tongues of the Believers, Noor, so that they can read the Kalima of Tauheed".

(Ref: Muwahibul Ladaniyah Shareef page 9 Vol 1 - Zirkani Shareef page 46 Vol 1 - Seerate Halbia page 37 Vol 1 -
Mutali ul Musarraat Sharah Dalail Kheyraat page 610 - Afzalul Qura by Imam Ibn Hajr Makki - Hujatullahu alal
Alameen page 68 - Anwaarul Muhammadiya Page 9 - Aqidatush Shuhada page 100 - Fatawa hadithia page 51,
Dalaa'il-un-Nubuwwat By Imam Baihaqi, Khamees by Allama Dayar Bakri, Madarij-un-Nabuwwat by Skaikh Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlvi)

2. Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said : “When my mother gave birth to me she saw a light proceeding from her which showed her the castles of Syria”

(Ref: Ibn Hisham; Tafsir Ibn Kathir 4:360; Bayhaqi, Dala’il an-Nubuwwa 1:110; Haythami, Zawa’id 8:221; Ibn al-Jawzi, ‘al-Wafa’; Qadi Iyad, ‘al-Shifa’)

3. Allama Jauzi in his KITABUL WAFA narrates a hadith from Hazrat Abdullah ibn Abbas, the cousin of the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim: "Allah's Rasul had no shadow, not while standing in the sun, but the brilliance of his Noor surpassed the rays of the sun; nor while sitting before a burning light, but his luminous Noor excelled the luster of the light".

4. Imam Jalaludeen Suyuti in his KHASAAISUL KUBRA "This is also a unique feature of the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim that his shadow did not touch the ground, because he was Noor, and when he used to walk in the sunshine his shadow could not be seen".

Tu Hay Saaya Noor Ka har uz'w tukra noor ka
Saaiey ka saaya na hota hay na saaya noor ka

5. The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has stated, "The very first thing which Almighty Allah created was my Noor."

(Ref: Tafseer Nashyapuri Page 55 Vol 8 - Tafseer Araa'is ul Bayaan page 238 Vol 1 - Tafseer Roohul Bayaan page 548 Vol 1 - Zirkaani Shareef page 37 Vol 1 - Madarijun Nabuiwat page 6 Vol 2 - Bayaanul Milaadun Nabi Li ibn Jauzi page 24 - Matali'ul Musarraat lil faasi - Itr ul Wirda - Tafseere Husaini - Sharah Qasida Imali).

6. Shareh Bukhari Imam Ahmad Qistalaani (radi Allahu anhu) states in his most distinguished work "Mustataab Muwahibul ladaniyah" that narration has been made by Hadrat Imam Zainul Abedeen (radi Allahu anhu) who narrates from His father Hadrat Imam Husain (radi Allahu anhu) who narrates from His father Hadrat Ali Mushkil Kusha (radi Allahu anhu) that the Holy prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has stated," 14000 years before the creation of Hadrat Adam (Alaihis Salaam) I was a noor by my creator."

(Ref: Muwahibul ladaniyah pg 10 vol 1 - Zirkani Shareef pg 49 vol 1 - Jawahirul Biharul Nibhaani page? 774 -
Anwaarul Muhammadiya pg 9 - Hujjatullahi Alal Alameen - Tafseer Roohul Bayaan pg 370 vol 2).

7. Hazrat Abu Huraira (Radi ALLAH Anho) narrates "Once Holy Prophet (Peace be Upon Him) asked Jibril
(Alaihissalam) about his age, Jibril Replied "I only know that after every 70,000 years a STAR appears and i have seen that STAR 72000 times, then Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) replied "I am that STAR". (Ref: Jawahirul Bihar page 886)

After examining these sayings of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) it is as bright and clear as the sun that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) explained Himself being noor in a very clear manner to His Ummah. Thus those who oppose and contradict the Nooraniyat of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). There ways and methods are against that of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

What the Glorious Sahaba Ikram have to say about this subject:

Now let us examine the Aqida (belief) of the Glorious Sahaba Ikram who are guiding beacons for us.

1. Renowned Muhaditheen of the Ummahe Muhammadi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Allamah Muhadith Baihiqi and Hadrat Allamah Yusuf Nibhaani have explained the belief of Hadrat Abu Bakr siddique (radi Allahu anhu) from one of his stanzas in praise of the Hoy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). "Muhammad Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is the Honest and is the one who brings you towards good. His light takes away darkness like the full moon." (Dalail-un-Nabuiwat pg 228 vol 1 - Jawahirul Bihaar pg 96 vol 1).

2. The fourth khalifa of Islam, The true khalifa of Islam Hadrat Ali Murtuza (radi Allahu anhu) states, "When the Beloved of Allah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) used to speak then noor could be seen emerging from between his blessed teeth." (Muwahibul Ladaniyah pg 27 vol 1 - Anwaarul Muhammadiyah page 132 - Zirkaani Shareef).

3. After gaining victory and success in Ghazwa Tabook when Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) arrived in Madinatul Munawwara, Hadrat Sayyiduna Abbas (radi Allahu anhu) requested permission of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to read a few stanzas in his praise then Rahmate Alam (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said, " My dear Uncle ! Go ahead. May Almighty Allah keep your mouth well."

This is what al-`Abbas ibn `Abd al-Muttalib was indicating when he said:

... Before you came to this world,
you were excellent in the shadows and in the repository (i.e. loins)
in the time when they (Adam and Eve) covered themselves with leaves.
Then you descended through the ages...
When you were born, the earth shone
and the horizon was illuminated by your light.
We travel in that illumination and in the light and in the paths of right guidance.”

Mullah Ali al-Qari in his ‘Sharh al-Shifa’(1:364) says it is related by Abu Bakr al-Shafi`i and Tabarani, and cited by
Ibn `Abd al-Barr and Ibn al-Qayyim respectively in ‘al-Isti`ab’ and ‘Huda Nabiyy Allah (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim)’.

This has been stated in distinguished works of great Muhaditheen such as Imam Jalaluddeen Suyuti, Muhadith ibn
Jauzi, Allamah Ibn Hajr, Allamah Halbi, Allamah Dahlaan Makki, Allamah Nibhaani, Allamah ibn Abdul Birr, Allamah
Haakim, Allamah Ibn Kathir and Allamah Sharistaani (radi Allahu Anhumul Ajmaeen).

(Ref: Kitaabul Wafa pg 35 vol 1 - khasais ul kubra pg 97 vol 1 - Insaanul Uyoon page 96 vol 1 - Seeratun Nauwiya pg 37 - Jawahirul Bihaar pg 40) - Anwaarul Muhammadiyah pg 62-84 - Hujjatulahi Alal Alameen pg 222 - Muwahibul Ladaniyah pg 23 - Al Istiaab Mustadrik pg 327vol 3 - Albidaya Wan Nihaya pg 258 vol 2 - Kitaabul Mallal wan Nahal pg 240 Vol 2 - Majma'i Zawahid pg 217 vol 8 - Talkheesul Mustadrik pg 327 vol 3).

4. The blessed and distinguished Sahabi-e-Rasool Hadrat Abu Hurairah (radi Allahu anhu) states, "When the beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) used to smile then the walls use to glow with his Noor."

(Ref : Muwahibul Ladaniyah pg 271 vol 1 - Anwaarul Muhammadiyah pg 133 - Shifa Shareef pg 39 - Hashia Shamail Tirmizi pg 16 - Shera Shifa Mula Ali Qari, Hashia Naeemur Riyaz pg 338 vol 1 - Madarijun Nabuiwat (persian) pg 12 - Hujatullahi Alal Alameen pg 689)

5. The beloved sahabi of Huzoor Pur Noor (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Hadrat Anas (radi Allahu Anhu states, "The day on which Huzoor (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) arrived in Madinatul Munawwara then through his noor every thing in Madinatul Munawwara became bright."

(Ref : Tirmizi Shareef pg 202 vol 2 - Mishkaatul masabih pg 547 - Ibn Majah Shareef pg 119 - Tabqaate ibn Sa'ad
pg 221 vol 1 - Muwahibul ladaniyah pg 68 vol 1 - Anwaarul Muhammadiyah pg 38 - Zirkaani Shareef, Seerate Halbia pg 234 vol 2 - Jawahirul Bihar pg 60 - Khasaisul Kubra pg 471 vol 1 - Madarijun Nabuiwat pg 81 vol 2 - Mustadrik pg 12 vol 3 - Talkheesul Mustadrik pg 12 vol 3)

6. Hadrat Sayyida Halima Sa'adiya (radi Allahu anha) who was the one responsible for feeding milk to the Holy Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam). The one before whom the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) used to eat and drink. Even she believed that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) was Noor and this has been explained by Allama Muhadith Ibn Jauzi and Qazi Thanaullah Paani Pati (radi Allahu anhum) as follows: "When I used to feed milk to the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) then I never felt the need for a light in my house. Thus one day Umme Khula Sa'diya said, "O Halima ! Do you leave the fire burning for the entire night in your house? and I answered by saying, "No! I swear by Almighty Allah that I do not keep the fire burning at all. This Noor and brightness is that of Sayidduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). (Bayaanul Miladun Nabwi pg 54 - Tafseere Mazhari).

7. The second nurse of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who also fed him milk also believed that Huzoor (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is Noor. This is obvious from one of the stanzas of the poem which she had written at the time of the Demise of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). "And although verily you were Noor, A sun. And you used to give brightness in darkness and emptiness." (Tabqaat ibn Sa'ad pg 333 vol 2)

8. Ummul Mo'mineen, Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa (radi Allahu anha) is recorded to have said: "In total dark nights, I used to put the thread into a needle with the help of the Noor of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)." (Shara Shifa Bar Hashia Naseemur Riaz)

9. Imam of all the Mufasireen of the Ummahe Muhammadi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Hadrat Abdullah ibn Abbas (radi Allahu anhu) has stated concerning the Tafseer of the ayat: "Verily came to you from the side of Allah a Light and a bright kitaab."? He states: "Verily came towards from the side of Allah a light, refers to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)." (Tafseer ibn Abbas pg 72 - Published Egypt)

After examining the Ahadith quoted by the bright Sahaba-e-Ikram it is very clear and obvious that they accepted the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to be Noor. As for the deobandis who accept the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) only to be human and continuously say the words human, human but yet they claim to be the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat. In the light of Ahadith of Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) it is clear that the claim of the Deobandis that they are the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat is only a hoax and a fraudulent act. The proper Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah are those who accept the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) as Noor and they are the ones who are known to the Deobandis as Sunnis (Bareilvis).

The Deobandis say that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) had wives, He had children, He used to eat and drink and it is for this reason that He is not Noor (In other words He possessed all human qualities). The brain capacity and the knowledge of the Deobandis is such that? they do not accept our Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) as Noor since He had wives, children, He ate and drank etc; but the Sahaba of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) also saw that He had wives, children etc; but still they accepted him to be Noor.

What the Aunties (Paternal) of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) have to say about this subject:

After Examining the Belief of a few distinguished Sahaba Ikram (radi Allahu anhum), let us examine the belief of the Aunties (Paternal) of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam):

1. Hadrat Allama Abdur Rahman Jaami (radi Allahu anhu) narrates that Sayyida Safiya the Aunty of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) states "On the eve of the birth of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) I was present at his home. I had seen that His Noor became more powerful than the light from the lamp." (Shawaahidun Nubuiwat (Persian) pg 22)

2. After the demise of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Hadrat Safia (radi Allahu anha) said the following stanza due the sorrow and thought of the demise of The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) from which one may conclude that she also accepted him as Noor. "I am weeping on the demise of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who was really Noor." (Tabqaate ibn Sa'ad pg 329 vol 2).

It is obvious from the above mentioned narrations that Hadrat Safia (radi Allahu anha) always accepted the Holy
Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to be Noor.

3. The belief of the second Aunty of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), Hadrat Aatika (radi Allahu anha) also said that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) was Noor. On the demise of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) she said the following : "Oh eyes tear and be sad. I am weeping in the loss of the Noor of the cities, Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). That Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who is Noor. and who is filled with righteousness and Full of guidance." (Tabqaate ibn Sa'ad pages 326/327 - Published Beirut).

4. On the demise of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) the third aunty of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Sayyida Arwa (radi Allahu anhu) pointed out what she believed and which was copied by ibn Sa'ad in his book: "Oh! Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is Noor for all the cities. Let me have the opportunity of praising you." (Tabqaate ibn Sa'ad pg 325)

After knowing the wives and children of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and even after watching him eat and drink, the blessed Aunties of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) still believed that He is Noor.

What the great scholars have to say about this subject:

Having read the words of those who had lived with the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim and had
closely watched his every action, we shall now turn to some great scholars of Islam, whose writings are considered most authentic in Islamic affairs. Pay heed to these to dispel any doubts that you may have regarding the subject. All these great scholars firmly believed that the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim is NOOR.

1. Hazrat Imam-e-Azam Abu Hanifa (radi Allahu anhu) praises the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the following poem: "You are that Noor that the full Moon is brightened by your Noor and you are with your beauty and elegance a shining sun." (Qasidaul Nu'maan)

2. Syyedi Abul Hasan Al-Ashari said "ALLAH Ta'ala, is NOOR, and the Soul of Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him), is the refulgence of that light. The angels are Flower of this Light". (Matale-ul-Masarrat, sharah of the Book DALAIL-UL-KHAIRAT)

3. Imam Qazi Ayaaz in his ASH-SHIFA states:" The Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim did not possess a shadow in the brightness of the sun or in the moonlight, because he was Noor (light)".

4. Sharaf al-Din al-Busiri the author of the ‘Burda’ said [in another poem]: You (O Muhammad) are the light of every perfection, And no light takes its source from other than your light.” (p. 68-69)

Who then can deny that Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) is not Noor (light)?

qadri · #18 08-12-2007, 11:53 PM

THE PERMISSIBILITY OF PROCLAIMING YA RASOOLALLAH
"Anwaarul Intibah Fi Hallil Nidaa Ya Rasoolallah"
by
A`LA HAZRAT, IMAM-E-AHLE SUNNAT, ASH SHAH IMAM AHMED RAZA BAREILVI AL-QADERI (RADI ALLAHU ANHU)

AN ISLAMIC JUDICIAL QUERY

QUESTION: What is the ruling of the Ulama of Islam on the following matter:

Zaid, who is a Muslim and believes in Almighty Allah and the Prophet hood of his beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), recites after every Salaah and at other times, the following verses: As Salaatu Was Salaamu Alaika Ya Rasoolullah - "Peace and Blessings upon you, O Messenger of Allah." Or As Alukash Shafaa`atu Ya Rasoolullah - "I seek from you Shafaa`at (Intercession), O Messenger of Allah."

I ask the learned Scholars of Islam:

(1) Are such calls to the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) permitted in Islam?

(2) What is the ruling of the Learned Scholars concerning individuals who refer to those who call to the Prophets and Saints as Kaafirs and Mushriks?

Please enlighten us on this. We pray that you enjoy the mercy of Allah on the Day of Judgement. Aameen.

ANSWER:

Alhamudullilahi wa Kafaa Was Salaatu Was Salaamu alaa
Habeebihil Mustafa wa Aalihi Wa Ashaabihi Oolis Sidqi Was Safaa

The utterance of the above words are indeed permitted and no person other than those who are misled would argue with it. For reference on this matter, we shall consult the following great Jurists of Islam and their books:-

A. "Shifa-us-Siqaam", by Imaam Taqi`udeen Abul Hasan Subki (radi Allahu anhu),
B. "Mawaahibbe Ladunnia", by Imaam Ahmed Qastalaani (radi Allahu anhu), being the Sharah (Commentary) of Sahih-ul-Bukhari,
C. "Sharah of the Muwaahibbe Laddunnia", by Allama Zarqaani (radi Allahu anhu),
D. "Mutaali-ul-Mussarraat" by Imaam Allama Faasi (radi Allahu anhu),
E. "Sharah of Mishkaat", by Allama Mulla Ali Qaari (radi Allahu anhu),
F . "Ashatul Lamaat", including the books, "Jazbul Quloob" and "Madaarijun Nubuwat", by Shaikh Muhaqqiq Allama Abdul Haq Muhaddis Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu),
G. "Afdalul Qur`a", which is the "Sharah of Ummul Qur`a" by Imaam ibn Hajar Makki (radi Allahu anhu).

I will now quote a Hadith, proving that it is permissible to utter the above mentioned words. This Hadith has been certified authentic by the following great Scholars of Islam:-

A. Imaam Nisaai (radi Allahu anhu),B. Imaam Tirmidhi (radi Allahu anhu),
C. Imaam ibn Maaja (radi Allahu anhu),
D. Imaam Haakim (radi Allahu anhu),
E. Imaam Baihaqi (radi Allahu anhu),
F. Imaam ibn Hazeema (radi Allahu anhu),
G. Imaam Abul Qasim Tabraani (radi Allahu anhu),
H. Imaam Manzari (radi Allahu anhu),
I. Imaam Muslim (radi Allahu anhu),
J. Imaam Bukhari (radi Allahu anhu).

(1) All the above mentioned Scholars of Ahadith, narrate on the authority of Hazrat Uthman bin Haneef (radi Allahu anhu), that a Sahabi who was blind by birth was taught a special Du`a by the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), which he was to recite after every Salaah.

The Du`a is as follows: Allahumma Inni As Aluka Wa Ata Wajjahu Ilaika Binabiyika Muhammadin Nabiyyir rahmati Ya Muhammadu Inni Ata Wajjahu Bika ila Rabbi Fi Haajati haazihi lituqda li. Allahumma Fashaf`fi`u Fiya.

"O Allah, I ask from you, and turn towards you through the Wasila (Medium) of Your Nabi Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), who is indeed a Prophet of Mercy. O Muhammad, with your Wasila (Medium) I turn towards Allah for my need so that it may be bestowed. O Allah, accept the Prophet`s intercession for me."

(2) Imaam Tabraani (radi Allahu anhu), in his "Muhjam" records the following incident:

A person in dire need visited Ameerul Mu`mineen Hazrat Uthman Ghani (radi Allah anhu). The Caliph was busy with some other work and he did not attend to his need. Thereafter, the person went to Hazrat Uthman bin Haneef (radi Allahu anhu) and complained about the matter. Hazrat Uthman bin Haneef (radi Allahu anhu) ordered the man to perform the Wudhu (ablution), enter the musjid and to offer two Rakaats of Nafil Salaah. He was then to recite the following Du`a:Allahumma Inni As Aluka Wa Ata Wajjahu Ilaika Binabiyina Nabiyyir rahmati Ya Muhammadu Inni Ata Wajjahu Bika ila Rabbi Fayadiha Haajati wa tazkuru haajataka wa ruh illaya hatta arooha ma`aka. "O Allah, I beg of you and I seek your assistance, with the Wasila (Medium) of your beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who is the Prophet of Mercy. O Muhammad! I turn to Allah with your Wasila so that my needs be fulfilled."

Thereafter, he was told to mention his need. On completion, he was told to visit Hazrat Uthman bin Haneef (radi Allahu anhu), so that both could visit the august court of Hazrat Uthman Ghani (radi Allahu anhu). When he presented himself in front of the great Caliph, he was not only shown great respect, but his need and wish were also immediately granted. The Caliph, then addressing the man stated: "In future if you require any favour, come immediately to me."

After they had left the court of the great Caliph, the man thanked Hazrat Uthman bin Haneef (radi Allahu anhu) for mentioning him to the Caliph, the latter clearly stated that he had not even approached the Caliph. He then stated: "By Allah, I saw the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) teaching the very same Du`a to a blind man. Miraculously, the blind man then approached us before we could even complete our conversation, and it appeared as if he had never been blind."

Imaam Tabraani and Imaam Munzari (radi Allahu anhuma) have both stated that this Hadith is authentic.

(3) Imaam Bukhari (radi Allahu anhu) in his "Kitaabul Adaabul Mufrad", Imaam Ibnus Sinni and Imaam ibn Bashkool (radi Allahu anhuma) have recorded that, Hazrat Abdullah Ibn Omar (radi Allahu anhu) once suffered from a cramp. Someone advised him to remember the person whom he loved the most. The great companion then proclaimed loudly, "Ya Muhammadah." It is recorded that he was immediately relieved.

(4) Imaam Nawawi (radi Allahu anhu) in his commentary of the Sahih Muslim, including in his book, "Kitaabul Azkaar", records that some individuals were sitting in the company of Hazrat Abdullah ibn Abbas (radi Allahu anhu), when suddenly one of them suffered from cramps. The great companion advised the man to remember the person whom he loved the most. The man proclaimed, "Ya Muhammadah." He was immediately cured. There are in fact many Ashbaab who narrate incidents of similar incident.

(5) Substantiating this, Allama Shahaab Khafaaji Misri (radi Allahu anhu) states in his "Naseem-ur Riyaaz" a commentary of the "Shifa" by Imaam Qaadi Ayaaz (radi Allahu anhu), that it is an established practice of the people of Medina Shareef to proclaim "Ya Muhammadah" in times of difficulty and anxiety.

(6) Hazrat Bilal bin Al Haarith Muzani (radi Allahu anhu) states: A drought which was known as "Aamur Ramadah" once occurred during the Caliphate of Hazrat Umar Al Farouk (radi Allahu anhu). His tribe the Bani Muzaina approached him and complained that they were dying of hunger, and thus requested the Caliph to sacrifice a few sheep. When he told them that there was nothing left of the sheep, they still insisted. After the sheep were cut and cleaned they noticed that only red bones were to be seen. Hazrat Bilal (radi Allahu anhu), seeing this state of affairs, proclaimed loudly, "Ya Muhammadah", in grief and concern.

He was then blessed with seeing the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in his dream, who informed him of future glad tidings which did occur later on.

(7) Imaam-e-Mujtahid Sayyidi Abdur Rahman Huzaili Kufi Masoodi (radi Allahu anhu), was the grandson of Hazrat Abdullah ibn Masood (radi Allahu anhu). He was also a very great Jurist and a Taabi`in of high rank. It is stated that he used to wear a long hat with the inscribed words, "Muhammad, Ya Mansoor."

(8) This was also confirmed by Imam Hasheem bin Jameel Az Zaaki (radi Allahu anhu) who was among the great Ulema and Muhadditheen of the time states: "I saw him (ie, Hazrat Abdur Rahman Masoodi) place a long hat on his head, with the words inscribed, `Muhammad, Ya Mansoor`."

(9) It is recorded in the Fatawa of Hazrat Imaam, Shaikul Islam, Shahaab Ramli Ansaari whether it was permissible for the people to invoke the names of Prophets, Saints and Ulema in times of difficulty as they normally did. The great scholar replied: "Undoubtedly it is permissible to seek the assistance of great Prophets, Saints and Ulema. They do in fact assist, even after they have departed from this world."

(10) Imaam Allama Khairudeen Ramli (radi Allahu anhu), the illustrious teacher of the scholar who has written the authentic book on Islamic Jurisprudence, "Durre Mukhtaar", states in his "Fatawa Khayria": "People who proclaim, Ya Sheikh Abdul Qaadir (are merely emulating) a call, what, therefore, is the reason for it, not to be permissible?"

(11) Sayyidi Jamal bin Abdullah bin Omar Makki (radi Allahu anhu), in his Fatawa states that he was questioned about those people who proclaim in times of difficulty, "Ya Rasoolullah, Ya Ali, Ya Sheikh Abdul Qaadir" as to these proclamations being permissible in Islam. The great scholar replied: "Yes, these proclamations are permissible, to call to them is permissible including using their names as Wasilas. This is permissible in the light of the Shari`ah. Such an act is desirable and approved. Only those individuals who are stubborn and arrogant would oppose or question this reality, and they certainly are unfortunate and deprived of the Barakaat (blessing) of the Awliya Allah."

(12) Imaan ibn Jouzi (radi Allahu anhu), In his book, "Oyunil Hikaayat", narrates a strange and amazing incident of three brothers who were constantly engaged in Jihad (Holy Islamic War). He narrates: Once, while engaged in Jihad with the Christians of Rome, they were captured and tortured. The King informed them that if they adopted the religion of Christianity he would set them free. The brothers refused to do so. Instead they all proclaimed aloud, "Ya Muhammadah." The King became furious and ordered two of the brothers to be thrown into boiling oil. After a while, the youngest escaped from the clutches of his capturers accompanied by the daughter of the King, whom herself was amazed at the piety of the young Muslim.

Six months later when they were about to be married, the two martyred brothers amazingly appeared accompanied by a group of Angels. When it was inquired as to how they had survived they replied: "When you saw us being thrown into the boiling oil, you indeed saw the truth, yet as we entered the pot, we entered into the high stages of Jannah."

Imam ibn Jouzi (radi Allahu anhu) states that the brothers lived in Syria and were extremely famous. Many couplets have been written in their praise. This incident has been shortened.

Our object is to highlight how beneficial it is to call out to the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). We have seen that the brothers at a time of extreme perils and danger did not hesitate in calling to the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). How were they rewarded? Very clearly they were rewarded with such blessing that the two Shuhada immediately entered Jannah, while the youngest brother was saved and married the King`s daughter, and the two Shuhada were actually given permission to attend the marriage of their younger brother accompanied by a group of Angels.

Where are those persons who proclaim that it is Haraam to call on great Prophets and Saints for assistance? If they firmly believe that it is Haraam, why have the great scholars clarified this action (of calling to Prophet`s and Saints) as permissible and extremely beneficial?

(13) Huzoor Pur-Noor, Sayiddina Ghous-e-A`zam (radi Allahu anhu), states: "If a person in distress or hardships calls out to me, his hardship will be eradicated. If a person uses my name as his Wasila (medium) and pleads to Allah, his need will be fulfilled."

The great Saint then goes on to describe a Salaah, which can be extremely beneficial. He states: "A person should perform two Rakaats of Salaah, in every Rakaat he should recite eleven times the Sura Faatiha and thereafter Sura Ikhlaas eleven times. After completing the Salaah, he should recite the Durood and Salaam upon the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), then remembering me he should proceed eleven steps towards the direction of Baghdad invoking my name in every step, including mentioning his need and wish. In this manner (Allah willing) his need and wish will be granted."

(14) The above-mentioned medicant has been described and mentioned by scholars such as, Imaam Abul Hasan Ali bin Jareer, Imaam Abdullah bin Asad Yafa`ee Makki, Shaikh Mulla Ali Qaari, Moulana Abul Ma`aali Mohammed Muslimi Qaderi and Shaikh-e-Muhaqqiq Moulana Abdul Haq Muhaddis Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhum) in their treaties, "Bahjatul Asraar", "Khulaasatul Mafaakhir", "Nuzhatul Khaatir", "Toh`fa`ee Qaderia" and "Zubdatul Aasaar", among others. One should also remember that the great Ulema and Saints attribute extreme authenticity to the mentioned article.

A point to mention about Imam Abul Hasan Noorudeen Ali (radi Allahu anhu), the author of "Bahjatul Asraar", is that aside from being a great Sufi, he was also considered to be a great Imaam of Qiraat. It is reported that he received his spiritual training under the guidance of Hazrat Sayyidi Abu Swaleh Nasr (radi Allahu anhu), the great grandson of Hazrat Ghousal Azam (radi Allahu anhu).

Describing the greatness and stature of the book, "Bahjatul Asraar", Hazrat Abdul Haq Muhaddis (radi Allahu anhu) in his book, "Zubdatul Aasaar", states that the book is indeed considered to be extremely authentic and factual in the eyes of the distinguished and esteemed Ulema and Saints. The book has also been used as a reference on many occasions.

(15) Imaam Arif Billah Sayyidi Abdul Wahab Sha`raani (radi Allahu anhu), in his book, "Lawaaqi-ul-Anwaar Fi Tabqaatil Akhyaar", records a strange and miraculous incident.

It is recorded that a Mureed of Sayyidi Mohammed Khawri (radi Allahu anhu) was once passing through the market, when the foot of the animal he was riding slipped. In extreme panic he screamed, "Ya Sayyidi Muhammad, Ya Ghamri!" Co-incidently, in that very market place, the captured ruler ibn Omar Sa`eed was also passing through. He inquired from the Mureed as to who was Sayyidi Mohammed. When he was told who he was, he asked permission to use the name of the Murshid so that he could also be released. As soon as he had proclaimed the name of the great Wali, the spiritual master appeared and driving away the capturers, freed the ruler. The Shaikh then blessed the ruler, and thereafter departed.

(16) A similar incident is mentioned of Sayyidi Shamsudeen Mohammed Hanafi (radi Allahu anhu). It is stated that the great Saint while performing Wudhu removed his sandal and threw it with tremendous fury and it disappeared into thin air. He then removed his other sandal and advised one of his Mureeds to retain it until such time that the first sandal was returned.

After some time a traveller from Syria arrived with the missing sandal and some gifts for Hazrat Shamsudeen (radi Allahu anhu). He then narrated that while he was travelling, he was attacked by a highwayman, who overpowered him and wanted to slit his throat. Under this extreme situation he called out aloud, "Ya Sayyidi Muhammad, Ya Hanafi." Suddenly, a sandal appeared from thin air and struck the robber. This Mureed then stated that it was indeed through the Wasila and power of his Murshid that he had been saved.

(17) In the very same book it is recorded that when the Spiritual Master, Hazrat Sayyidi Shamsudeen Hanafi (radi Allahu anhu) was on his death-bed, he called his Mureeds and said: "If anyone has any wish or need, he should come to my grave, I will indeed help him in fulfilling it. Remember between you and me, there is merely a handful of sand, and how can a mere handful of sand be a screen between a Murshid and his Mureed. If the sand does become a screen, then the murshid cannot be perfect a Man (Insaan-e-Kaamil)."

(18) Incidents of similar nature are recorded by Hazrat Imaam Abdul Wahab Sha`raani (radi Allahu anhu) in his book, "Tabqaat-e-Kubra." We shall quote a few.

(19) Sayyidi Mohammed Farghal (radi Allahu anhu) states: "I am indeed amongst those Saints who can assist you from the grave. If, therefore, you have any wish or need come to my grave and facing me, mention your requirements. I will fulfill them."

(20) It is recorded that while Hazrat Sayyidi Madeen Ahmed Ashmooni (radi Allahu anhu) was performing the Wudhu, he suddenly threw his sandal towards the Eastern side of the city. A year later a man arrived and described a strange incident. He said: "My daughter was once walking in the jungle, when an evil man tried to entrap her. She did not at the time remember the name of her father`s Murshid, yet in panic, she screamed, `O Murshid of my father, save me!`. Suddenly, a sandal appeared from thin air and rendered the evil man unconscious." It is stated that the sandal is still in the possession of the mentioned family.

(21) Among the excellences of Hazrat Sayyidi Moosa Abu Imraan (radi Allahu anhu), it is recorded that whenever his Mureeds used to call to him, he immediately use to assist them, even though the Mureed was as far away as a year`s journey or even more.

(22) Hazrat Shaikh-e-Muhaqqiq Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu), in his famous book, "Akhbaarul Akhyaar" mentions Shaikh Baha`udeen bin Ebraheem Ata`ullah Al Ansaari Ash Shattari (radi Allahu anhu), who is the author of a very famous book on Tasawwuf entitled "Risaala Shat`taaria", has recorded in his book a specific type of Zikr known as "Zikr-e-Kashful Arwah."

The great Saint mentions: "There are two ways of making the Zikr of `Ya Ahmed` and `Ya Muhammad`. The first way is to recite `Ya Ahmed` from the right side and `Ya Muhammad` from the left side, concentrating on the thought of `Ya Mustafa.`

"The second method is to recite `Ya Ahmed, Ya Ali, Ya Hasan, Ya Husain, Ya Fathima.` This is to be read from all six directions. In other words, one should begin with `Ya Ahmed` till the end. Thereafter, the next name and so on. By performing this Zikr in the specified manner one will obtain the secrets of Kashful Arwah (Manifestation of the Souls).

"The Zikr of the names of Angels, which is performed in the same manner and which has the same effect, namely `Ya Jibraeel, Ya Israeel, Ya Mikaeel, Ya Izraeel.` This is performed from all four sides and also results in Kashful Arwah.

"Another method is by reciting `Ya Shaikh, Ya Shaikh` one thousand times in the following manner. The person should pronounce the word, `Ya Shaikh` from the right side of the heart and at the time of pronouncing the word `Shaikh` he should concentrate on striking it on the heart. Through this method, one can also achieve Kashful Arwah."

(23) Discussing the life and teachings of Hazrat Moulana Jalalludeen Rumi (radi Allahu anhu), Hazrat Sayyidi Noorudeen Moulana Abdur Rahman Jaami (radi Allahu anhu) writes: At the last moments, before the passing away of Moulana Rumi (radi Allahu anhu), he revealed to his Mureeds a startling secret. He said: "Do not be sad at my passing away, because one hundred and fifty years after the passing away of Hazrat Mansoor (radi Allahu anhu), his Noor beamed on the soul of Hazrat Fareedudeen Attar (radi Allahu anhu) and became his Murshid (Spiritual Guide) in the spiritual world."

Moulana Rumi (radi Allahu anhu) then stated: "Whatever condition you may be in, remember me, so that I can be your protector and helper, irrespective of what state I may be in."

He further states: "In this world I have two types of relationships, one with my body and the other with you, and when, with the Mercy of Allah I am freed from this contact with my body and the world of loneliness is exposed to me, I will divert the attention of my soul to you."

(24) Hazrat Shah Wali`ullah Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu), in his book, "Ateebul Ghanum fi Madh-e-Sayyadal Arabi Wal Ajam", comments on the Quranic verse pertaining to the state of ecstasy in the love for the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). He states:

Wa Salla alaikal laahu Ya Khaira Khalqihi
Wa Ya Khaira Ma`moolin Ya Khaira Wa hibi
Wa Ya Khaira May yurja likashfira zee yatan
Wa man Jooduhu Qad faaqa Joodas sahaa`ibi
Wa anta mujeeri min hujoomi mulimatin
Iza anshabat filqalbi sharral makhaalib

"O Exceptional! Among those who can be depended on.
O Exceptional! Among those who can be depended upon to eradicate difficulty.
O Exceptional! Among those whose generosity showers more than rain.
I indeed testify to the fact that at the time when my heart is engulfed in this dilemma,
You are indeed the one who gives me assistance and consolation."

Under the same commentary, Shah Wali`ullah (radi Allahu anhu) states concerning those moments of difficulty in which it is most necessary to seek assistance from the sacred Soul of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). At the beginning of this chapter, he writes: "I cannot perceive any one besides the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who, for the depressed person at times of calamities, will forward a helping hand."

(25) The same scholar in his "Madhiyaa Hamziya" explains: In the august court of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) one should consider oneself insignificant and inferior. With a broken heart and with total sincerity one should call to the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in Du`a. The person will indeed attain Salvation if he states, "O Rasool of Allah! O Unique among the Creation! I seek your favour on the Day of Justice. On that Day when there will be a great test, only you, O Prophet of Allah, would give security from all calamity! I have turned to you for salvation and have my trust in you."

(26) Hazrat Shah Wali`ullah (radi Allahu anhu), records a method for achieving and fulfilling one`s needs and wishes in his book, "Al intibah fi Salasil-e-Awliya". He states: "One should first perform two Rakaats of Nafil Salaah. After completion he should recite the following - 111 times Durood Shareef, 111 times Kalima Tamjeed and 111 times `Shay an Lillah, Ya Shaikh Abdal Qaadir Jilaani`."

(27) From this book, it has been proven that all the great Luminaries (to be mentioned), believed in the proclamation of `Shay an Lillah` as being a valid and a great solution to many unsolved problems. They also gave permission to their students and disciples to proclaim it, without any hesitation.

The names of some of these great Scholars and Saints are among others:

27.1 Ustaad and Shaikh-e-Hadith of Shah Wali`ulllah, Moulana Tahir Madani (radi Allahu anhuma),
27.2 His Shaikh and father, Moulana Ebraheem Kardi (radi Allahu anhu),
27.3 His Ustaad, Moulana Ahmed Kashshaashi (radi Allahu anhu),
27.4 His Ustaad, Moulana Ahmed Shanawi (radi Allahu anhu),
27.5 His grand Ustaad, Moulana Ahmed Nakhli (radi Allahu anhu),
N.B. The above mentioned Scholars are also quoted in the sequence of Shah Sahebs Salasil-e-Ahadith (orders of Ahadith).
27.6 The Murshid of Shah Saheb, Shaikh Mohammed Lahoori (radi Allahu anhu), about whom in the book, "Al Intibah", the title of Shaikh Mu`ammar Thaqqa (the blessed and trustworthy master) is attributed, this title is also attributed to his Shaikh,
27.7 Shaikh Moulana Abdul Maalik and his Shaikh (radi Allahu anhu),
27.8 Shaikh Bayazeed Thaani and his Murshid (radi Allahu anhu),
27.9 Moulana Wajeehudeen Alawi (the commentator of the "Hidaayah" and the "Sharhah Waqaya"), including his Murshid (radi Allahu anhu),
27.10 Taajul Aarifeen, Shah Mohammed Ghous Gawalyari (radi Allahu anhu).

All the above Ulema and Awliya have recited the Naade Ali and the daily recital of "Ya Ali, Ya Ali."

For those wishing to gain more information on this subject, I (Imam Ahmed Raza) advise them to read the books, "Anhaarul Anwaar" and "Hayatul Mawaat fi Bayaani Samaa`il Amwaat", both written by A`la Hazrat Shah Ahmed Raza (radi Allahu anhu).

(28) Shah Abdul Aziz Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu), in his book, "Bustaanul Muhaditheen", praises Hazrat Sayyidi Ahmed Zarooq (radi Allahu anhu), by describing him as follows: "Hazrat-e-Arfa wa Ah`la, Imaamul Ulema and Nizaamul Awliya (The Highly Exalted Shaikh, Leader of the Ulema and the Governor of the Awliya). This great Saint is also among the Abdaal Sab`a (The Seven Magnificent Abdaal) and is an authority amongst the Sufis. Among his illustrious students are personalities like Imaam Shamsudeen Lagaani and Imaam Shahabudeen Qastalaani (radi Allahu anhuma). The Saint was a master in Shari`ah, Haqiqat and all Mystical Facets. Some of his books can be consulted to gain a better appreciation of his immense qualities."

Shah Abdul Aziz (radi Allahu anhu) further states: "In brief, the Saint was a man of exceptional attributes, to fully comprehend his qualities is indeed beyond comprehension."

(29) Shah Abdul Aziz (radi Allahu anhu), then quotes two sentences stated by Hazrat Ahmed Zarooq (radi Allahu anhu), which further highlights his greatness, "I indeed bless my (Mureeds) with tranquillity during times of difficulty and perplexity, when cruelty and evil oppresses them and in times of misery and fear. Therefore (during these times) call to me `Ya Zarooq`, I will immediately come to your assistance."

(30) Allama Ziyadi, Allama Ajhoori, Allama Dawoodi (who also happens to be the marginal writer of the "Sharah Minhaat") and Allama Shaami (radi Allahu anhum), have all prescribed a method for finding mislaid items. They state: "One should climb on to a high spot and offer Faatiha for Hazrat Sayyidi Ahmed bin Alwaan Yamaani (radi Allahu anhu). Thereafter invoking his name one should say, `Ya Sayyidi Ahmed, Ya ibn Alwaan`."

All praise is due to Allah, in that this servant has compiled a book in which quotations from the generation of the Sahaba and from the generations of Ulema and Awliya following them have been mentioned.

As to those who are corrupted and hope to corrupt, we ask them what are their views on these great scholars and Saints who also believed that it was permissible to call out to great Saints and Prophets for assistance with the Harf-e-Nidaa? What will they label such great personalities, which include among others:

30.1 Hazrat Uthman bin Haneef (radi Allahu anhu),
30.2 Hazrat Abdullah ibn Abbas (radi Allahu anhu),
30.3 Imaam Taqi`udeen Abul Hasan Ali Subki (radi Allahu anhu),
30.4 Imaam Ahmed Qastalaani (radi Allahu anhu),
30.5 Imaam Abdul Azeem Munzari (radi Allahu anhu),
30.6 Imaam Bukhari (radi Allahu anhu),
30.7 Imaam Muslim (radi Allahu anhu),
30.8 Imaam Tabraani (radi Allahu anhu),
30.9 Imaam Baihaqi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.10 Imaam Tirmidhi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.11 Imaam Nisaai (radi Allahu anhu),
30.12 Imaam Nawawi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.13 Imaam Shahab Khafaaji (radi Allahu anhu),
30.14 Imaam Bilal bin Haarith Munzani (radi Allahu anhu),
30.15 Sayyedi Abdur Rahmaan Huzaili (radi Allahu anhu),
30.16 Shaikul Islam, Shahabudeen Ramli al Ansaari (radi Allahu anhu),
30.17 Allama Khayrudeen Ramli (radi Allahu anhu),
30.18 Sayyidi Jamal bin Abdullah bin Omar Makki (radi Allahu anhu),
30.19 Imaam ibn Jouzi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.20 Ghousal A`zam, Syed Abdul Qaadir Jilaani (radi Allahu anhu),
30.21 Imaam Jalalludeen Suyutwi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.22 Imaam Abul Hasan, Noorudeen Ali bin Jareer (radi Allahu anhu),
30.23 Imaam Abdullah bin Asad Yafa`ee Makki (radi Allahu anhu),
30.24 Mulla Ali Qaari (radi Allahu anhu),
30.25 Moulana Abul Ma`aali Mohammed Muslimi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.26 Taajul Aarifeen, Sayyidi Abu Bakr Taajudeen Abdur Razzaq Qaderi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.27 Shah Abdul Haq Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.28 Sayyedi Abu Swaleh Nasr (radi Allahu anhu),
30.29 Imaam Shamsudeen Zahbi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.30 Mohammed bin Mohammed Al Hizri (radi Allahu anhu),
30.31 Imaam Abdul Wahab Sha`raani (radi Allahu anhu),
30.32 Sayyedi Mohammed Ghazni (radi Allahu anhu),
30.33 Sayyedi Shamsudeen Mohammed Hanafi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.34 Sayyedi Ahmed Kabeer-e-Awliya Badawi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.35 Sayyedi Mohammed bin Ahmed Farghal (radi Allahu anhu),
30.36 Sayyedi Madeen bin Ahmed Ashmooni (radi Allahu anhu),
30.37 Sayyedi Moosa Abu Imraan (radi Allahu anhu),
30.38 Imaam Noorudeen Abdur Rahman Jaami (radi Allahu anhu),
30.39 Arif Billah, Moulana Jalaalludeen Rumi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.40 Shah Wali`ullah Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.41 Allama Ziyaad (radi Allahu anhu),
30.42 Shah Abdur Raheem Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu),
30.43 Allama Ajhoori (radi Allahu anhu),
30.44 Allama Shaami (radi Allahu anhu), and
30.45 Sayyidi Ahmed bin Alwaan Yamani (radi Allahu anhu).

Now what is your opinion about these great Luminaries of Islam, who so clearly substantiate the belief that it is permissible to call upon Prophets and Saints for assistance. If you consider them to be Muslims, then Alhumdulilah, you are on the straight and correct path. On the other hand, if you consider them disbelievers then all we say is, "May Allah assist you in seeing the correct path." Aameen.

We would like to categorically state an amazing fact - how unfortunate is that group which considers Muslims from the generation of the Ashbaab to the present times as disbelievers and Mushriks (because they call upon Prophets, Saints and Ulema to help them in times of difficulty). They cannot be true "Muslims" who respect the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), if this is their belief concerning the Ulema and Saints of his Ummah.

The question of Disbelief and Belief has very clearly been explained in the book of Jurisprudence, "Durre Mukhtaar", yet there are individuals who themselves are misled and hope to deliberately mislead and confuse the Muslims so that their true state is not revealed.

(31) The most beautiful proof of calling to the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is in the Attahiyaat, wherein every worshipper salutes and calls unto the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). If by using the Nida, causes one to be guilty of Shirk, then how is it that it is found in the Salaah?

Some individuals state that, one does not have the intention of calling to the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the Attahiyaat, rather one is merely conveying a message. This opinion is without basis. The religion of Islam has never commanded us to recite any Zikr, without pondering on its meaning. Therefore, when we are reciting the Attahiyaat, we should not possess this belief, rather we should believe that we are directly addressing the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and sending Salaams to him, upon oneself and upon all the pious of the Ummah.

(32) It is recorded in the books, "Tanweerul Absaar" and "Sharah Durre Mukhtaar" that, "The intention which one must possess at the time of reciting the Tashahud is the concentration on the meaning of this, that is, in other words, one must remember that one is sending Salaams upon the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and that one is praising Allah Almighty. One must be assured of the fact that one is sending Salaams and not merely relaying a message."

(33) Words of similar effect are also found in the books of Jurisprudence, "Fatawa Alamgeeri" and "Sharhe Qudoori".

(34) Allama Hasan Sharanbulaani (radi Allahu anhu), in his book, "Maraqi-ul-Falah" states: "Numerous Ulema have in fact clarified this belief. There are some misled individuals who profess that because Angels are deputized to convey the Salaams to the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), one should not use the Harf-e-Nidaa. What these enlightened individuals have forgotten is that twice daily the deeds of the Ummati are placed in front of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). In many authentic Ahadith, it is quite clearly stated that all deeds of the individual are placed in front of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), the deceased family and the deceased parents."

The numerous Ahadith on the above topic, is evident in the book composed by this servant of Islam entitled, "Saltanatul Mustafa fi Malakoot-e-Kullil Wara."

(35) Substantiating this, I will conclude this book by mentioning a Hadith reported by Hazrat Imaam Abdullah ibn Mubarruk (radi Allahu anhu), narrated by Hazrat Sa`eed ibn Musayyib (radi Allahu anhu), who states: "Not a day or night passes by, without the deeds of the Ummati are being placed in front of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Therefore the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) recognizes his followers in two ways, firstly by their Alamat (signs) and secondly by their Amaal (deeds)."

This humble servant of Islam, with the Infinite Mercy of Allah could have compiled a more lengthy book concerning this issue, however, this is ample proof for a person possessing qualities of piety, justice and honesty. Certainly, for those who have Allah`s guidance, a single letter is sufficient.

Ikfina sharal mudilleena Ya Kaafi wa salli ala Sayyidina wa Maulana Muhammadinish shaafi wa Aalihi Wasahbihi Humaatid Deenis Saafi Aameen wal Hamdulillahi Rabbil Aalameen.

geoku · #19 09-12-2007, 11:25 AM

Qadri bhia aap ki baatain parh kar is time mera dimagh ma sirf Quran ki aik aayat ghoom rahi hai

" kya ya log Quran ma Ghor nahi karta Ya Inka dilo per QUFL laga hoa hia” (Quran)

Well agar koi shaks Quran ki aayat ko neglet karka apni logic and apni aqul larana start karda ,jo na tu un ayaat ka maqsad ho na hi Ahadith ka tu us shaks ki Aqul ka kiya kehna us sai bara koi na tu Jahil hia aur na hi na farmaan jo Quran ki aayat ko kaafi na samjha…

Ma na Qadri bhia aap ka saamnay Quran ki jo Allah ki laraib kitab hia aur Muhammad SAW per nazil hoi jiski tafseer bhi khud Allah ka nabi na ki aur aap ki zindagi hi uski tafseer hai , Uski aik ayat paish ki jis ma saaaf alfaaz ma bataya gia hai koi imaginations koi logics nahi hia ma fir dohrana chahta ho kyunka aap na hamari baatain ghor sai parhi hi nahi hia aur ya jo kuch aap na paste kiya aap na kahi search kiya aur yaha per paste kar diya

قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ
" Aae Muhammad Keh deejia ka Ma Tumhari tarah ka hi insaan ho" (Al-Kahf-110)

Ya hai saaaf Alfaaz jo Quran bata raha hia .. jisper aap yakeen hi nahi kar raha jabhi tu apna zehan lara raha hia sahayad Quran aap ka lia kafi nahi..

Tu fir ya bataaein kiya Allah ko kisi ka dur tha ya Allah ka Nabi ko Allah ka ilawa kisi ka khof tha ka Quran ma tu kehalwaya jaa raha hai ka BASHAR hain per haqiqat mukhtalif.. tha tu Noor per kehalwadia giya ka BASHAR Hai

Astughfirullah, Nakl-e-Kufur Kufur na Bashad aisa hurgiz nahi tha .. na tu Allah ki zaat ki ya shaan ha ka kisi sai Dara aur na Allah ka nabiyo ki ka Allah ka ilawa kisi sai dara…

Ma na aap sai simple si guzarish ki thi ka aap Quran ki koi wazey Aayat ya Allah ka Nabi ki koi wazay Hadith badatain jo isi mozu per ho Allah ka Nabi na Sahaba ko jama kyia hoa ya Juma ka khutba ma kaha ho ..

ka Aae Sahaba khabardaar me ko Bashar na mana karo ma noor ho.. ma insaan ka roop ma ho bus … ma hur jaga murna ka baad bhi rahoga…mera paas saaray gaeb ka ilm hia

Na-AaaoZubillah aisa kahi nahi mila ga aap ko .. aur agar fir bhi aap is baat ka israr karta hia ka Nabi NOOR hi tha INSAAN Nahi tha.. tu bhai fir aap Allah ka Nabi per ilzaam laga raha hai ka Allah ka Nabi na Islamic Aqaed ki sahih taaleeem nahi di aur batain mushkil ma daal gae ka aaj itna bara confusion ho giya khud HAzoor ki zaat ka bara ma tu baki deen ka tu Allah hi hafiz………

Per Haqiqat kuch aur hia Allah ka Nabi na aur usper Utarna wala Quran na saaaf do tok Alfaz ma in maslo ko bhi solve kyia aur taaleem di kyunka Allah ko ilm tha ka kuch NAqis Aqul log ummat maa aaaenga Jo meri Kitab ka aagay apni logics and apna zehan istimaal kara ga mera Nabi ki taaleem sai zyada unko apna Ullema ki taaleem per aitibaar hoga

Qadri bhia Aap na kaha :

In the Ahadith of Mishkaatul Masabih, Narration has been made by? The second khalifa of Islam Hadrat Umr Farouk (radi Allahu anhu). He states:

"Once? we were in the presence of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). A man came to us. The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) asked Hadrat Umr Farouk (radi Allahu anhu), "Do you know who that person was? Hadrat Umar Farouk (Radi Allahu anhu) said, "Almighty Allah and His beloved Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) know better." The Prophet (Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said, "That is Jibraeel (Alaihis Salaam)." (Mishkaat - ul - Masabih - Bukhari Shareef)

Pehli baat is Hadith ma Kahi noor aur Bashar ka zikar hi nahi … na hi is topic ka haan aap na bana zaroor diya apna zehan istimaal karka… ya jiska bhi aapna ya topic paste kia hia usna apna ..

Is HAdith ma Baat ho rahi hia Jibrael amen ki aur woh bila shuba aik Jallelu Qadar farishta hian…. Aap ya btaein kiya Jibrael amin ki shadi ho gae…. Unka bacha ho gae.. aap mila raha hia aik Farishta ko Allah ka Jaleel ul Qadar Nabi sai ka Jibrael insaani roop ma ae that u Nabi kyu nahi… ya bataein kiya is baat per kabhi koi kisi bhi masnak ka nazdeek confusion hoi ka Jibreal Insaan tha ya Noor, nahi kyunka Wazay tor per bataya giya ka who aik Farishta that u aab kisi roop ma bhi aae raha ga Farishta hi…..

Doosri baat Iblees jo hai who bhi insaani roop ma aaya tha aur Ayatul Kursi ki fazeelat bhi sahaba ko bata kar giya tha.. tu kyia aab hum Iblees ko NaaAaozubillah Allah ka pyara Nabi SAW sai compare karna start karda… ka who aaya tha tu Nabi kyu nahi..

Bhia Quran per iman lao jo baat saaf wazay bata di gae usma masla hi kesa behas hi fazool hia .. ya tu fir do tok alfaz ma ya kehdo ka Quran ghalat keh raha hia aap sahi keh raha ho aap ka ullema sahi keh raha hai.. aur Quran and Hadith ma NaaAaoozubullah Ikhtilaaf paya jata hai.

Qadri Sahab aap na ref diya:

ALLAH Ta'aala Says in the Holy Quran:

1. "Surely, there comes from ALLAH a Light and a illuminated Book" (Al-Quran, Al-Maidah - 15)

The Imam of all the Mufasireen of the Ummahe Muhammadi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) Hadrat Abdullah ibn Abbas (radi Allahu anhu) has stated concerning the Tafseer of the ayat He states:
"Surely, there comes from ALLAH a Light, refers to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)." (Tafseer ibn Abbas pg 72 - Published Egypt)

Jee haan light(Hidayat) sai murad Allah ka NAbi SAW hi hian

Shayad aap na mera topic parha hi nahi hia ya aap samajhna hi nahi chahta. Ma na aik ref diya tha aur isi Ayyaat ka diya tha aur iski tafseer bhi biyan kit hi aur last topic ma bhi kaafi clear kyat ha aab aap ki marzi mano ka na mano Allah ka kalam tu Bur Huq hi raha ga

Ma na tafseer kahi thi ka

“yaha per is noor sai murad woh hidayat hai jo Allah na Muhammad (peace be upon him) ki surat ma nazil ki jo hidayat ka sur chashma hai isi liya is noor ko Kitab-e-mubin ka saath bataya ka woh noor (hidayat aur roshni hia ) is kitab ko samjhana is per amul karka dikhana ka liya .. kyunka hum na tumhi ma sai aik rasool bheja hai jo hamari aayat tilaway karta hia tm ko kitab ki taaleem deat hia aur tazkia karta hai

aur doosri aayat jub tum apni jano per zulum kar betho ka jawab ma kaha tha ka

is aayat ka mutlab hia ka jub tum apni jaano per zulum yani Gunnah kar betho aur zahir hia woh jub hi karo ga jub mera nabi ki Taleemaat uski sunnat aur jo kitab usper utri yani Quran us sai moo mor loga usko chor doga.. tu Gunnah gaar ho jaoga.. tu mera nabi ki taraf aana taubah ka lya.. mutlab ka mera Nabi ki taaaleemat ko mazbooti sai thaam lena meri kitab jo ma na Apna mehboob SAW per nazil ki hia jiska practical mera RAsool khud hai uski zindagi per aajana.... tumhari taubah ho jaegi aur tum falah ka raasta per aajao ga.

Per shayad aap samajhna ko tayar hi nahi ..

Aap na aik Hadith Quote ki

"O Prophet of Allah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) ! My parents be sacrificed upon you, What did the Almighty Allah first create?" The Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) replied: "Allah first created my Noor (Light) of His Noor. This Noor traveled about according to the Will of Allah. At that time, there was no Heaven, Hell, Lawh (Divine Tablet), Pen, Earth, Skies, Sun, Moon, Jinn or Human Beings. When He decided to create, He divided that Noor into four parts. From one part He created the Pen, from the second, the Lawh and from the third, he made the Arsh Throne). He divided the fourth part into a further four parts. From one, He created those Angels who carry the Arsh, from the second, the Kursi (Divine Chair) and from the third, He created the Angels. He again divided the remaining parts into a further four parts. From one, He created the skies. The second was used in creating the planets. From the third, Heaven and Earth were created. Once again, He divided the fourth part into a further four parts. From one part He created the power with which the believers see. From the second, He created in the hearts of the Believers the Noor of Marifat. From the third, He created in the tongues of the Believers, Noor, so that they can read the Kalima of Tauheed".

(Ref: Muwahibul Ladaniyah Shareef page 9 Vol 1 - Zirkani Shareef page 46 Vol 1 - Seerate Halbia page 37 Vol 1 -
Mutali ul Musarraat Sharah Dalail Kheyraat page 610 - Afzalul Qura by Imam Ibn Hajr Makki - Hujatullahu alal
Alameen page 68 - Anwaarul Muhammadiya Page 9 - Aqidatush Shuhada page 100 - Fatawa hadithia page 51,
Dalaa'il-un-Nubuwwat By Imam Baihaqi, Khamees by Allama Dayar Bakri, Madarij-un-Nabuwwat by Skaikh Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlvi)

Barah-e-Meharbani iska Sahih Bukhari. Shahih Muslim, Mishkat Shareef, Ibn Maja, Sanun Nisae. Abi Dawood kisi aik ka reference dedain kyunka.. aap na jo reference diya who sirf Books ka hia.. aur ya Hadith Zaeef hia..

Qadri quoted

5. The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has stated, "The very first thing which Almighty Allah created was my Noor."

(Ref: Tafseer Nashyapuri Page 55 Vol 8 - Tafseer Araa'is ul Bayaan page 238 Vol 1 - Tafseer Roohul Bayaan page 548 Vol 1 - Zirkaani Shareef page 37 Vol 1 - Madarijun Nabuiwat page 6 Vol 2 - Bayaanul Milaadun Nabi Li ibn Jauzi page 24 - Matali'ul Musarraat lil faasi - Itr ul Wirda - Tafseere Husaini - Sharah Qasida Imali).

8. Ummul Mo'mineen, Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa (radi Allahu anha) is recorded to have said: "In total dark nights, I used to put the thread into a needle with the help of the Noor of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)." (Shara Shifa Bar Hashia Naseemur Riaz)

Barah-e-Meharbani Shahih Hadith ka reference dain… kyunka aap ka tamam reference un books ka hain jo aapka aur mera jesa insaano na hi likhi hia shayad is per aap ko ikhtilaaf nahi hoga

Hum baat kar raha hai QUran ki ayat ki Allah ka Nabi ki Hadith ki aur aap reference de raha hai Books ki..

Bhai fir kaho ga…. Koi Aik Hadith koi Aik Allah ka Quran ki Ayat dikha do.. is mozu per Wzay clear jesa ka Quran NAbi sai BAshar ka bara ma kehalwa raha hia kiya ya nahi kehalwa sakta tha ka aae nabi kedho ka ma Noor ho aur tum sub BAshar

Nahi nahi aisa hota bhi kesa kyunka Haqiqat hi kuch alug hia Nabhi Afzalul BAshar hia aur Quran bhi yahi kehta hia aur Allah ka Nabi ki taleemat bhi aur Sahaba ka Ijmaa bhi jabhi tu Islam ki 6 Centuries tuk ya fitna utha hi nahi .. ya tu Uthaya Brevli thought ma aakar ya shayad unka Liya koi new Wahi utri hogi.. ya Deen mukamal uski taleemat mukamal hoi nahi hongi… aap ka Aala Hazrat per ho gae hongi jinko ya new Aqeeda pata chala jiski Khabar na tu Quran na di na hi HAdith na na hi sahaba samjhta than a hi who musalmaan jo un 6 centuries ma guzar gae in aayaat ki samajh tu aaj aae hia Brelvi tought ma kyunka us waqt tu koi in ko samajhna ka qabil hi nahi tha..

Jahalat ka maqam hia mera bhia ….ka Quran ki aayaat ka saamnay apni dalael paish kar raha ho …. Waki Allah ki kitab sahih keh rahi… ae Nabi aap inko nahi suna sakta inka dilo per tu kufl para hoa hai aur kehti hia ka aap ka zima tu phunchana hia Hidayat dena ya na dena tu Allah ka kaam hai

Tu mera khyal ma aa[ nahi samjho ga kyunka jo shaks Quran ki ayat ko neglet karda…. Usko samjhana ka lyia kuch baki reh hi nahi jata .. aur yahi door-e-Nabwi ma hoa ka jub Kufar—e-makkah na Quran aur uska Nabi ki saari dalleel rud kardi aur isi baat per Qaem raha… ka Insaan Nabi nahi ho sakta..

Tu Allah na aik Ayat NAzil ki “ Lakum deenukum Waliaya deen”

“tumhara liya tumhara Rasta aur hamara liya hamara”

Ya baat samajh aaegi per Qabar ma jakar… aur waha buhat der ho chuki ho gi kyunka Aqaed ma shirk ho tu insaan mualmaan hi nahi hota… aur Allah hur Gunnah baksh dega per Shirk nahi tu hum sub ko fikar karni chahiya…

Aakhir ma fir kaho ga ka agar puri zindagi ma Quran ki koi Ayat ya Allah ka Nabi ki koi sahih hadith mil jae.. ka Allah ka Nabi na Sahaba ko Umaahatul Moomineen ko jama kiya ho aur unko bataya ho Khabar daar ma noor ho basahr nahi.. me ko BAshar na samajhna.. ma tu Allah ka noor ma sai noor ho (na usma sai kuch bana na who kisi sai Al-Ikhlaas V:03) ..ma murna ka baad bhi zinda raho ga hur jaga HAzir nazir hoga…(jo Sirf Allah ki sift hia)

Tu barah-e-Karam huma bhi batana.. kyunka shayad aap ka paas doosra quran ho ya doosri Hadith ho jiski khabar na Sahaba ko mili na unka baad aana wala 6 centuries ka muslims ko na aaj hum ko aur na hi .. kul aana wala insaan jo qiyamat tuk aaenga unko mila gi aap ka bara ahsaan hoga is ummat per. Jub fitna ki itni dalael de sakta ho tu aik Sahih Hadith kyu nahi paish kar skata jaha per apna dimagh apni logic lagae bagair .. saaf do tok alfaaz ma is masla ko biyan kiya giya ho

Allah mera aur aap ka Hami-o-NAsir ho Allah hamara iman ki hifazat kara aur huma Shikriya Aqaed sai baaz rakha aameen

wasalam

qadri · #20 09-12-2007, 04:54 PM

I can only pray for all of us, and may Allah guide us to take right path, and who ever is wrong may change his/her beliefs.

I think this is the only words, which we can use at this time.

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