[Enigma]

Originally Posted by daria dil

bohat galut baat hai kisi aik kay amal ko app pori koom ko mujreem bana rahay hai........ ajj mahajir,punjabi, sindhi koom ka koe katal karta hai tu may bolo kay ya mahajir kitnay zalim hotay hay ya punjbi kitnay zalim hotay hai, sindhi kitnay zalim hotay....... ???

maine news ke lihaz se balochi kaha tha , warna ajkal tu sab hi aik jaisey hain, aik dusre ko takleef dene wale..........

[Aisha Khan]

Originally Posted by Zubair

Hum kab Educated hoon gay
???

yahan baat educated honay ki nahi hay. Balkay Ba zameer, ba shaour, Insaniyat ki Qader kernay aur Islam ko samjhnay ki hay. Jo k aak illitrate Insan samjh bhi samjh sakta hay ager us k dil main khoof-e-khuda hay. Yah log Jo Ministers hain kia yah educated nahi Jo is Jahalat ko apne Traditions ka naam day rahay hain?

[Aisha Khan]

Originally Posted by Sav3rA

isiliye to pakistan mai itne zalzale atey hain...ALLAH ka azab hi to hai yeh//

em sory to say I'm disagree wid u at this point. Hamain koi bhi baat apne terf se assume nahi ker laini chahiye yah tu Allah behter Janta hay is main kia hikmat the.

Jahan tak aazab ki baat hay tu Allah ka apne Nabi Hazrat Muhammad s.a.w se Wadah hay k aap ki Umat pe azaab nahi aye ga. laken qudarti aafat aur aazmaishain aazab main nahi aati hain. is k bawajood ager ham azab ki baat kertay hain tu naouzbillah ham is waday se Inkaar ker rahay hain Jo Allah aur us k Rasool s.a.w k dermiyan hay.

Doseri baat achai aur burai her Jagha mojod hay sirf Pakistan main nahi. Pakistan main ager buray log hain tu kia ham in buray logo ki waja se un achay logo ko Ignor ker dean gay?

[umair_pak]

abi b buhat aisay ghatiya loog baqi hain dunya main jo yeh kaam kartay hain

[Aisha Khan]

Jahalat hamesha se duniya main rahe hay aur kise na kise surat main hamesha rahay ge. Is topic per Jitna protest yah afsos kia Jaye kam hay. Islam main aurat ko maa, baiti, behan, Bivi honay k halway se Jo haqooq hasil hain woh ham sab jantay hain. Laken Jo log Gumrah hain un k dilon main Raham payda nahi ho sakta. bass Allah se dua hay k woh sab ko seedha rasta dikhaye Ameen.

[HULK]

Aisha beta, aik baat mian yahan per kehta chaloon ke the word AZAAB apney ander aik makhsoos definition rakhta hai. Ager musalman Ummah per azaab na aney ka Wada Allah SWT ne fermaya hai (jo ke main ne aaj tuk sirf suna hai koi reference nahin dekha, if you can provide some reference from Quran and Hadith, it would be really great), wo azaab aisa azaab hai jo qaumon ko mita deta hai. Jaisey ke for example Hazrat Loot AS ki qaum, Hazrat Nooh AS ki qaum, etc aur baqi anbiya ki aqwaam.

Mager Allah Tallah ka qeher zaroor nazil ho sakta hai musalmaan ummah per ya qaum per. 1932 ka quetta ka zalzala, 2005 ka pakistan ka zalzala aisi hi Khudai qeher ki misalain hain. Qudarti afaat bhi aati hain azmaishon ke tor per, mager ye baat aik musalmaan honey ke natey hamara imaan hai ke jub insaan ke muzalim hud se berhtey hain to Khuda ki Khudai apna qeher nazil fermati hai. Aur bila shuba ager Pakistan abhi tuk survive ker raha hai to yeh Allah SWT ka ehsaan hi hai.

Humain self reliance, self criticism aur self improvement ki ashad zaroorat hai. Allah Tallah ne tip of the ice berg to dikha di hai humain but hamari akalon per hi patti bandhi hui hai. Hamari qaum ki is waqt wo halat hai jo billi ko dekh ker khargosh ki hoti hai, musalsal ankhain bund kiyeh issi intezaar main hain ke billi jae to ankhain kholain.

Beta, ye qaum itni behis nahin thi aaj se 20 saal pehley. ub Wallah Alam ke ye kuffar ki sazish ka shikar hain ya materialist hotey hotey is race main aa gae hain ke aaj hum se ziada bud-kirdar aur behis koi aur nahin hai.

Allah Tallah aap jaisey, mazeed hassas dil rakhney waley pakistani aur musalmanon ko paida fermae, kiyun ke hamari buzurg nasal se to ub ummeedain khatam ho chukui hain,.

[Zubair]

[Zubair]

[Zubair]

Originally Posted by Aisha Khan

yahan baat educated honay ki nahi hay. Balkay Ba zameer, ba shaour, Insaniyat ki Qader kernay aur Islam ko samjhnay ki hay. Jo k aak illitrate Insan samjh bhi samjh sakta hay ager us k dil main khoof-e-khuda hay. Yah log Jo Ministers hain kia yah educated nahi Jo is Jahalat ko apne Traditions ka naam day rahay hain?

Dear ME ne Graduation ki Degree Ki baat nahi ki hai ..

me ne taleem ki baat ki hai jis se hume zameer, shaour,insaniyat aur Islam ko samjhne ko milta hai..

hum primary se he Islam Parhty hai..History parhty hai..Insaniyat parhty hai..Science aprthy hai..Quran Parhty hain..

Aur Yehe Sub Cheexein hume INSAAN banati hain..

[Zubair]

Originally Posted by HULK

Aisha beta, aik baat mian yahan per kehta chaloon ke the word AZAAB apney ander aik makhsoos definition rakhta hai. Ager musalman Ummah per azaab na aney ka Wada Allah SWT ne fermaya hai (jo ke main ne aaj tuk sirf suna hai koi reference nahin dekha, if you can provide some reference from Quran and Hadith, it would be really great), wo azaab aisa azaab hai jo qaumon ko mita deta hai. Jaisey ke for example Hazrat Loot AS ki qaum, Hazrat Nooh AS ki qaum, etc aur baqi anbiya ki aqwaam.

Mager Allah Tallah ka qeher zaroor nazil ho sakta hai musalmaan ummah per ya qaum per. 1932 ka quetta ka zalzala, 2005 ka pakistan ka zalzala aisi hi Khudai qeher ki misalain hain. Qudarti afaat bhi aati hain azmaishon ke tor per, mager ye baat aik musalmaan honey ke natey hamara imaan hai ke jub insaan ke muzalim hud se berhtey hain to Khuda ki Khudai apna qeher nazil fermati hai. Aur bila shuba ager Pakistan abhi tuk survive ker raha hai to yeh Allah SWT ka ehsaan hi hai.

Humain self reliance, self criticism aur self improvement ki ashad zaroorat hai. Allah Tallah ne tip of the ice berg to dikha di hai humain but hamari akalon per hi patti bandhi hui hai. Hamari qaum ki is waqt wo halat hai jo billi ko dekh ker khargosh ki hoti hai, musalsal ankhain bund kiyeh issi intezaar main hain ke billi jae to ankhain kholain.

Beta, ye qaum itni behis nahin thi aaj se 20 saal pehley. ub Wallah Alam ke ye kuffar ki sazish ka shikar hain ya materialist hotey hotey is race main aa gae hain ke aaj hum se ziada bud-kirdar aur behis koi aur nahin hai.

Allah Tallah aap jaisey, mazeed hassas dil rakhney waley pakistani aur musalmanon ko paida fermae, kiyun ke hamari buzurg nasal se to ub ummeedain khatam ho chukui hain,.

Bilkul Sahi........

[daria dil]

Originally Posted by Enigma

maine news ke lihaz se balochi kaha tha , warna ajkal tu sab hi aik jaisey hain, aik dusre ko takleef dene wale..........

hmmmm ....... agar app apni post edit karlay tu acha rehaygaa.... kion kay esay app ne pori koom ko ilzam daydia hai......

app ne theek kha hamara har amal esa hota jarah hay jis ko daik kar shaitan bhi sharma jata hoo ga.... loog atnay murda hogiay hai kay apnay haq kay liay bhi bol nahi sakhtay .....

[Style Mantra]

Originally Posted by HULK

Aisha beta, aik baat mian yahan per kehta chaloon ke the word AZAAB apney ander aik makhsoos definition rakhta hai. Ager musalman Ummah per azaab na aney ka Wada Allah SWT ne fermaya hai (jo ke main ne aaj tuk sirf suna hai koi reference nahin dekha, if you can provide some reference from Quran and Hadith, it would be really great), wo azaab aisa azaab hai jo qaumon ko mita deta hai. Jaisey ke for example Hazrat Loot AS ki qaum, Hazrat Nooh AS ki qaum, etc aur baqi anbiya ki aqwaam.

Mager Allah Tallah ka qeher zaroor nazil ho sakta hai musalmaan ummah per ya qaum per. 1932 ka quetta ka zalzala, 2005 ka pakistan ka zalzala aisi hi Khudai qeher ki misalain hain. Qudarti afaat bhi aati hain azmaishon ke tor per, mager ye baat aik musalmaan honey ke natey hamara imaan hai ke jub insaan ke muzalim hud se berhtey hain to Khuda ki Khudai apna qeher nazil fermati hai. Aur bila shuba ager Pakistan abhi tuk survive ker raha hai to yeh Allah SWT ka ehsaan hi hai.

Humain self reliance, self criticism aur self improvement ki ashad zaroorat hai. Allah Tallah ne tip of the ice berg to dikha di hai humain but hamari akalon per hi patti bandhi hui hai. Hamari qaum ki is waqt wo halat hai jo billi ko dekh ker khargosh ki hoti hai, musalsal ankhain bund kiyeh issi intezaar main hain ke billi jae to ankhain kholain.

Beta, ye qaum itni behis nahin thi aaj se 20 saal pehley. ub Wallah Alam ke ye kuffar ki sazish ka shikar hain ya materialist hotey hotey is race main aa gae hain ke aaj hum se ziada bud-kirdar aur behis koi aur nahin hai.

Allah Tallah aap jaisey, mazeed hassas dil rakhney waley pakistani aur musalmanon ko paida fermae, kiyun ke hamari buzurg nasal se to ub ummeedain khatam ho chukui hain,.

Azab hazrat Muhammad SAWW ki umat peh nahi ayega yeh maine b parha hua hai I'll find a reference for it...I think soorah Toobah ya ahzab mein ayat hai isse related...yeh asmani aaftun aur natural disasters ko ap azab nahi keh saktay...kyun k yeh lafz aik makhsoos phenomena k liyai reserved hai yeh aik tara se Allah ka qehar hai jo kaumoon ko mita deta hai...u can't call natural disasters an azab...just like SAWW ka word sirf Ap SAWW k liyai makhsoos hia just like Maujzay ka word sirf aur sirf anbiyaa A.S. k liyai makhsoos hai ussi tara har natural disaster azab nahi hota...yahan tak k Allah tallah ne Dajjal ko b fitnay ka naam diya azab ka nahi coz ummat-e-Muhammadi peh koi azab nahi nazil hoga...insha'Allah...& God knows the better...

[ASQR]

Or yey bhi abhi tak hota hay, Koi hay hamarey leaderoon mien say jo keh political or rleigious hein keh is Halat to control karien. meri Allah S.W.T. sy girgra key dua hay keh Allah hamien achha Musalman bananey ki tofiq day. Ameen.

YouTube - The Rat Children - Pakistan

[HULK]

Zaroor Asjad, reference dhoondhna. is liyeh ke bachpun se hum ne ye suna hi hai mager apni aankhon se koi reference nahin dekha is baat ki sehat ka.

musalmanon ki aankhain kholney ke liyeh Allah Tallah saza de sakta hai. Qudrati afaat Allah Tallah ka qeher nahin hotin, saza nahin hotin, ye logic meri samajh se bahir hai:).

Jub aik patta bhi Allah SWT ki merzi ke baghair hilney ki jurrat nahin ker sakta, to phir qudrati afaat, natural disasters etc ye sub Allah Tallah ki merzi ke baghair under the heading "natural disasters" kaisey aa saktey hain? Ofcourse, main ye believe rakhta hoon ke jub Allah Tallah ne saza deni ho, sabaq dena ho, rassi ko lambi chor ker ussey khianchna ho, apni Khudai ka namoona dikhana ho aur several other reasons, Wo apni afaat bhejta hai bandon per. Imtehan ke tor per ya saza ke tor per, ye Allah SWT ki merzi hai.

beherhaal ye to aik lafz ki definition per debate ho rahi hai. main ye samajhta hoon ke her aisey waqiyeh se ye sabak hasil kerain ke insaani zindagi kaisey fragile hoti hai, just like a bubble of water. is be-sabaat zindagi ki khatir aur is zindagi ke sukhoon ki khatir insaan kaisey tag o doh kerta hai, mager jis Malik ne paida fermaya aur jis ke paas laut ke jana hai, us ki ibadat ka qaqt nahin, us ke shukeriah ada kerney ka waqt nahin. Tuf hai hum per, jo apney khalik ke ehsanaat ka bojh nahin uthatey.

Allah SWT hum sub ko ehsaas aur ankhain kholney ki tofeeq ata fermae, ameen sum ameen.

[ASQR]

Hamary ankhien khuli hein or hum ro rahey hien, lakun hamey leader so rahey hein. Ab hum to sirf dua hi kar saktey hein. Aey Allah S.W.T. Hamery leaderoon ko tofiq deh keh wo Islam ki izat ko uncha karein na keh us ke khilaf su n kar khamoosh rahien or fitney ko or bahrney ka moqa dien.

Un ko hag nahi karni sirf apna muda byan karna ahy or apney logoon ko apas mein mil kar rehney ki taqeed karni hay, yeh is tarhey hoga keh leader log hamein lead karein apni misal say na keh apney hukam say.

Hamarey Paighamber S.A.A.S. nay bhi apni misal say lead kia na keh apney hukam say.

May Allah S.W.T. give us courage and sahih Iman to satnd up for what we believe in.

[Aisha Khan]

Originally Posted by HULK

Aisha beta, aik baat mian yahan per kehta chaloon ke the word AZAAB apney ander aik makhsoos definition rakhta hai. Ager musalman Ummah per azaab na aney ka Wada Allah SWT ne fermaya hai (jo ke main ne aaj tuk sirf suna hai koi reference nahin dekha, if you can provide some reference from Quran and Hadith, it would be really great), wo azaab aisa azaab hai jo qaumon ko mita deta hai. Jaisey ke for example Hazrat Loot AS ki qaum, Hazrat Nooh AS ki qaum, etc aur baqi anbiya ki aqwaam.

Mager Allah Tallah ka qeher zaroor nazil ho sakta hai musalmaan ummah per ya qaum per. 1932 ka quetta ka zalzala, 2005 ka pakistan ka zalzala aisi hi Khudai qeher ki misalain hain. Qudarti afaat bhi aati hain azmaishon ke tor per, mager ye baat aik musalmaan honey ke natey hamara imaan hai ke jub insaan ke muzalim hud se berhtey hain to Khuda ki Khudai apna qeher nazil fermati hai. Aur bila shuba ager Pakistan abhi tuk survive ker raha hai to yeh Allah SWT ka ehsaan hi hai.

Humain self reliance, self criticism aur self improvement ki ashad zaroorat hai. Allah Tallah ne tip of the ice berg to dikha di hai humain but hamari akalon per hi patti bandhi hui hai. Hamari qaum ki is waqt wo halat hai jo billi ko dekh ker khargosh ki hoti hai, musalsal ankhain bund kiyeh issi intezaar main hain ke billi jae to ankhain kholain.

Beta, ye qaum itni behis nahin thi aaj se 20 saal pehley. ub Wallah Alam ke ye kuffar ki sazish ka shikar hain ya materialist hotey hotey is race main aa gae hain ke aaj hum se ziada bud-kirdar aur behis koi aur nahin hai.

Allah Tallah aap jaisey, mazeed hassas dil rakhney waley pakistani aur musalmanon ko paida fermae, kiyun ke hamari buzurg nasal se to ub ummeedain khatam ho chukui hain,.

Umm Jahan tak azaab ki baat k reference ka sawal hay kyun k meray pass abhe nahi so main us baat ko abhe touch nahi ker rahe.

Laken Uncle mera sawal aap se yah hay k ham apne pass se andazay kyun laga laitay hain Jab ham yah bhi jantay hain k Ghaib ka Ilam sirf Allah ko hay aur Jo bhi acha yah bura hota hay woh sab Allah ki terf se hay aur aisa honay main kia Hikmat chupi hay Insan us se laa ilam hay then ham kyun kehtay hain k yah Allah ki terf se azaab hay etc etc.

Mujhay aap ki is baat se bhi shadeed Ikhtilaaf hay "aaj hum se ziada bud-kirdar aur behis koi aur nahin hai"
duniya main kahan buriyan nahi ho rahe hain kia sirf Pakistan hi Gunahon ki zad main hay? main ne pahlay bhi kaha tha k achai aur Burai her Jagha mojod hay laken Burai ki waja se Mojod achai ko bura nahi kaha ja sakta. beshak woh kam nazer aaye laken us ka wujood aur khushbo zaroor hay. Ise terah Pakistan ki baat hay ager yahan Ghadar, bad-kirdar, zameer farosh logo ki kami nahi tu apne Watan k liye mar mitnay, aur khoon ka akheri qatera tak baha denay walon ki bhi kami nahi........ aur ham sab jantay hain k yah sirf batain nahi yah aise History hay Jo shyed hi kise qoom ne raqam ki ho.

Jab kise aur country main rehnay wala Pakistani apnay watan ziker sirf buray halat aur logo ki waja se keray aur ise doseri nations n countries k muqablay main apna watan kharab nazer aaye tu being a pakistani mera dil is baat pe dukhta hay. kia ham un logo ko bhool jatay hain Jinhon ne pakistan ko perwan charhnay k liye apna khoon dia aur aaj bhi day rahay hain aur detay rahain gay.

yah aak baat Jo meray mind main akser ati hay aur main ne aap se share ki k shyed aap is baat se agree kertay hon. kyun k topic yah nahi is liye is per ziydaa baat nahi keron ge.

[Aisha Khan]

Originally Posted by Zubair

Dear ME ne Graduation ki Degree Ki baat nahi ki hai ..

me ne taleem ki baat ki hai jis se hume zameer, shaour,insaniyat aur Islam ko samjhne ko milta hai..

hum primary se he Islam Parhty hai..History parhty hai..Insaniyat parhty hai..Science aprthy hai..Quran Parhty hain..

Aur Yehe Sub Cheexein hume INSAAN banati hain..

main ne bhi graduation ki degree ki baat nahi ki Mr Zubair.

aap ne baat ki the ham kab educated hon gay? so baat educated honay ki ho rahe the aur main ne kaha tha Jo log aise rules n regulations bantay hain unhain implement kertay hain aur follow kertay hain kia woh educated nahi "not Graduate"

baat sirf Taleem ki nahi hay baat Tarbiyat aur deen se agahi ki bhi hay kyun k main ne perha tha "Mazhab k bgahir di gie taleem sirf ayaar shaitan payda kerti hay" n Its a big reality today.

Insan Insaniyat k mertbay ko Tabhe pohnchta hay jab us ki Tarbiyat Insani ahtraam ki Bunaiydon pe hue ho na k History yah Science ki buniyad pe.