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Old 25-06-2008, 04:10 PM
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well i wanna discuss this with all of ya k kia apnay dil ki taskeen k liye dosron ko hurt kerna theek hai , dosron ki feelings say khailna chahay dosra kitni hi buri halat may kiun na chala jaye durust hai kia ?

Aaj kal yeh trend bohat bar chuka hai k pehlay kisi ko achi tarhan apna trustworthy banaya aur phir achanak say aisay ho gaye jaisay kabhi jaantay hi na hoon...

in sab k kia reason hain aur is ka hal ??
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yeh aik na kabil-e-maufi gunah hai Allah k nazdeek...aur aise insan ki jannat mein koi jaga nahi...

is aik line mein u ka answer hai hope u u/stand...iska best hal sab Allah peh choor do uski laathi be-awaz hai jab parti hai tu baray baray shehanshaon ko jur se ukhaar phainkti hai...
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yeh aik na kabil-e-maufi gunah hai Allah k nazdeek...aur aise insan ki jannat mein koi jaga nahi...

is aik line mein u ka answer hai hope u u/stand...iska best hal sab Allah peh choor do uski laathi be-awaz hai jab parti hai tu baray baray shehanshaon ko jur se ukhaar phainkti hai...
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Salam!

well i wanna discuss this with all of ya k kia apnay dil ki taskeen k liye dosron ko hurt kerna theek hai , dosron ki feelings say khailna chahay dosra kitni hi buri halat may kiun na chala jaye durust hai kia ?

Aaj kal yeh trend bohat bar chuka hai k pehlay kisi ko achi tarhan apna trustworthy banaya aur phir achanak say aisay ho gaye jaisay kabhi jaantay hi na hoon...

in sab k kia reason hain aur is ka hal ??
wsalekum assalam....!!!

ye zindgi ka itna karwa sach hai ba-khuda main khud es se dochar ho chuki hun...... thats why i can feel its feelings.....!!!

ye durust nahien hai....mgr haan trend bht chal gaya hai es ka .es ka hal sirf ye k jab apko koi hurt kare sirf apne mufaad k liye n u know the reason than ap akele main KHUDA k samne 2 ansoo zaroor baha dain ap k dill ka gubaaar en annsuoo k zariye nikal jayega than sirf apne KHUDA K LIYE us bande ko maaf bhi kar dain............!!! its quite difficult but not impossible....!!!

than phir kabhi bhi us shaks se aapka amna samna ho tu ap ne apna attitude wesa he rakhna hai jese k pahle tha than........ i know us person pe es baat ka 0% bhi effect nahien hoga mgr.......... ap ka zarf bht bAAR jayega.....!!!

well ye he mera way hai es sitvation ko deal karne ka........ es se aap kabhi upset bht dair tak nahein rah paty..........!!!

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well Anas, It depends upon the nature of interest/problem, which, probably, the other person is mainly unable to make u understand. One should keep their words but if it cannot be done then we shud consider the fact that everyone has sum issues in their lives. And friends are to protect them and respect them.. not to point them. If u feel hurt, it is nature that the other person might have been feeling the same ...
"things arent always what they seem to be" and then those who respect other's feelings/nature they are rewarded... like Asjad, I dont know if it is gunaah (a sin) or not; as Im not in a state to judge or justify Allah's decision unless and until a person commits some serious sin... it is a matter of Allah, that person n u; however we can just think with our so lil brains n produce heuristics....
Dont always just Expect from life but u shud also learn to give however and indeed it takes time to time : )
learn to let go those things which come away ur path.. the road is much longer.. move on : ) Allah will take care of the things that bother u on ur behalf..
I know I dont sound good when I m serious..
PS: serious content in da post.. lolz
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well Anas, It depends upon the nature of interest/problem, which, probably, the other person is mainly unable to make u understand. One should keep their words but if it cannot be done then we shud consider the fact that everyone has sum issues in their lives. And friends are to protect them and respect them.. not to point them. If u feel hurt, it is nature that the other person might have been feeling the same ...
"things arent always what they seem to be" and then those who respect other's feelings/nature they are rewarded... like Asjad, I dont know if it is gunaah (a sin) or not; as Im not in a state to judge or justify Allah's decision unless and until a person commits some serious sin... it is a matter of Allah, that person n u; however we can just think with our so lil brains n produce heuristics....
Dont always just Expect from life but u shud also learn to give however and indeed it takes time to time : )
learn to let go those things which come away ur path.. the road is much longer.. move on : ) Allah will take care of the things that bother u on ur behalf..
I know I dont sound good when I m serious..
PS: serious content in da post.. lolz

i said that in sum other perspective n my dear bro anas has u/stood it :)
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I WIL SUM IT UP IN A POETIC VERSE.

Dr. iqbal said.

Dard-E-Dil key wastey paida kia insaan ko
Warna ebadat key liey kuchh kam na they kur-o-bian

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i said that in sum other perspective n my dear bro anas has u/stood it :)
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People who hurt people for their own personal gain dont really amount to much, not in anyone's eyes, and im sure deep down, not in their own eyes either. This realisation will always haunt them that to achieve whatever it was they set out to achieve they had to hurt that person for no apparent reason except selfishness.
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warna clear saf alfazo mai bata deti ke log keu HUrt karte hain ...
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Those who hurt others for their own gains are not worthy of mention
Those who insult other for their own satisfaction are not worthy of attention
Those who abuse others should be ignored and deserve rejection
Our conscious is our monitor and should be followed for our satisfaction
We can than be happy to know that the right from wrong is our attraction
So friends take heart, make strides in the way of supplication and salvation

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Koi confusion na ho is liyeh batata chaloon ke Haqooq ul ibaad aur haqooq Allah, Allah Tallah ne in 2 haqooq o faraez ko separate rakha hai.

Haqooq Allah se bhi aur haqooq ul ibaad se bhi aap sub bakhoobi waqif hain. Haqooq Allah to chunkey bandye ka aur us ke Rub ul Izzat ka mamla hai, to aisey haqooq main kotahi kerney waley bandey ko Rub ul Izzat maaf fermata hai ya saza deta hai, ye main kiya kisi ki majal nahin ke keh sakey.

Jahan tuk baat hai, haqooq ul ibaad ki, to baccho haqooq ul ibaad aik wasee o areez mozooh hai. Aik jallad jo phansi ki saza mujrim ko deta hai, to in other words wo aik INSAAN ki jaan le raha hota hai yaani us insaan ko KATAL ker raha hota hai, Mager wo gunah shumar nahin hota ke wo us ka anjaam hota hai jis ne gunah kiya hota hai aur is ka faisla munsif kerta hai.

The thing is ke main nahin chahta ke aap log ghalat fehmiyon main reh jayen ke her soorat azar deney wali soorat main hi shumaar hoti hai. Main phir wohi kahoonga ke ye faisla kerney wali zaat ALLAH TALLAH ki hai aur kisi insaan ka ye fatwa de dena ke "aisey log jannah main dakhil nahin hongey" aik nihayat bara fatwa hai aur kisi alim ko hi zaib deta hai. Hum kiyun aisi batain kahain jo humain gunahgaar bana deney ka baes banain?

Haqooq ul ibaad main, aap ka parosi, aap ke rishtey dar, aap ke maan baap aur behan bhai aa jatey hain, asatza aa jatey hain, ghareeb aur bhookey log aa jatey hain etc etc. jaisey hr burai ke derjaat hotey hain, waisey hi her naiki ke bhi derjaat hotey hain, her rishtey aur her ferz ke bhi derjaat hotey hain.

Ub sawal ke "hurt" kerna kis soorat e haal ke tehet huwa, aya wo kisi ki zindagi bachaney ke liyeh huwa, ya apney mazhabi faraez poorey kerney ke tehet huwa, ya koi bhi soorat e haal ho sakti hai, algharz is ka faisla itna asaan nahin hai. Ub jaisey Allah SWT ne apni jaan bachaney ke liyeh ye riaayat de rakhi haai ke ager kisi kafir ke shikanjey main aa jayen to jaan bachaney ke liyeh kalmey se inkaari hona parey to ho jana chahiyeh hai.....jub ke aam halaat main ye kufr hai aur kufr kerney wala jannah ka haqdaar nahin hota:). Aisey hi "case-by-case" hota hai her kaam:).

Allah SWT ne Quran main ferma diya hai ke "INNA MAL AIMAAL BINN NIYAH"
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wsalekum assalam....!!!

ye zindgi ka itna karwa sach hai ba-khuda main khud es se dochar ho chuki hun...... thats why i can feel its feelings.....!!!

ye durust nahien hai....mgr haan trend bht chal gaya hai es ka .es ka hal sirf ye k jab apko koi hurt kare sirf apne mufaad k liye n u know the reason than ap akele main KHUDA k samne 2 ansoo zaroor baha dain ap k dill ka gubaaar en annsuoo k zariye nikal jayega than sirf apne KHUDA K LIYE us bande ko maaf bhi kar dain............!!! its quite difficult but not impossible....!!!

than phir kabhi bhi us shaks se aapka amna samna ho tu ap ne apna attitude wesa he rakhna hai jese k pahle tha than........ i know us person pe es baat ka 0% bhi effect nahien hoga mgr.......... ap ka zarf bht bAAR jayega.....!!!

well ye he mera way hai es sitvation ko deal karne ka........ es se aap kabhi upset bht dair tak nahein rah paty..........!!!

maya.......
well lakin agar dosra person itna rude ho jaye k na chahtay hoye bhi hum apna behaviour theek na ker payain to ???
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well lakin agar dosra person itna rude ho jaye k na chahtay hoye bhi hum apna behaviour theek na ker payain to ???
tu friend,,,,,,,,,,, insan ka zarf k se itna bara hojata hai...?? esi tarha na.....

allah ta'ala azojal farmaty hain...

"A bande us se mohabbat kar jisse tu nafrat karta hai sirf mere liye"

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well Anas, It depends upon the nature of interest/problem, which, probably, the other person is mainly unable to make u understand. One should keep their words but if it cannot be done then we shud consider the fact that everyone has sum issues in their lives. And friends are to protect them and respect them.. not to point them. If u feel hurt, it is nature that the other person might have been feeling the same ...
"things arent always what they seem to be" and then those who respect other's feelings/nature they are rewarded... like Asjad, I dont know if it is gunaah (a sin) or not; as Im not in a state to judge or justify Allah's decision unless and until a person commits some serious sin... it is a matter of Allah, that person n u; however we can just think with our so lil brains n produce heuristics....
Dont always just Expect from life but u shud also learn to give however and indeed it takes time to time : )
learn to let go those things which come away ur path.. the road is much longer.. move on : ) Allah will take care of the things that bother u on ur behalf..
I know I dont sound good when I m serious..
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well.. if some is having good relation or some good memories in past phir bhi share na keray to phir aisi dosti ka kia faida ?
if there's something really serious y don't they share it all or just tell about problem or highlighted part of prob. or give some time to friend k is waqt tak me ko akaila chordia jaye me relax kerkay baat kerlonga ya kerlongi.
But avoiding some one cuz of these reason is really ...........
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well.. if some is having good relation or some good memories in past phir bhi share na keray to phir aisi dosti ka kia faida ?
if there's something really serious y don't they share it all or just tell about problem or highlighted part of prob. or give some time to friend k is waqt tak me ko akaila chordia jaye me relax kerkay baat kerlonga ya kerlongi.
But avoiding some one cuz of these reason is really ...........
I didnt get your first point.. sorry :S
then its not always to-be-implemented that everything shud be shared..
U shud be able to understand their silence rather than loud words : )
that is what i think.. rest is upto u.. since everyone has their own perceptions ... khair.. God Bless you : )
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