[Desert_ Rules]

Do you think that Terrorists and Criminals should be able to purchase Arms with no background check required? it is happening!

"GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK?"

[La Ha$!L]

if u r talking abt US then on south ... ppl are allowed to buy as many guns as they want but in NY and around... they do check background..

Pakistan main tau har airay ghairay k ghar gun mojood hai.. meri sab frnds k ghar main thi gun lol..

[Desert_ Rules]

Originally Posted by La Ha$!L

if u r talking abt US then on south ... ppl are allowed to buy as many guns as they want but in NY and around... they do check background..

Pakistan main tau har airay ghairay k ghar gun mojood hai.. meri sab frnds k ghar main thi gun lol..

ahan, nice... mujhe nahi pata tha NY main eysa hota hai..

per pakistan main arms lena bohat asan hai, license lene k lie simply forum fillup karna hota hai. karachi main ye bat aam hai k loug Arms le k chalte hain... koi aik MNA MPA koi bhi ho us k around 4 cars, aur 10 security guards hote hain with heavy arms...

political party base pe arms ka license 300/Rs. ka banta hai, aur aik private pande ko wohi 6000/Rs ka milta hai .. hmmmmm

[NonSense]

Originally Posted by Desert_ Rules

political party base pe arms ka license 300/Rs. ka banta hai, aur aik private pande ko wohi 6000/Rs ka milta hai .. hmmmmm

ahmmm new information :)


i think arms ab necessity ban gaye hain her ghur ki... pakistan k halat kuch eyse hain ..

[ASQR]

A day will come when every body even children will bear Arms even when thy go to school, it would be a shame,

What we need is leaders who would rule by examples of piety, goodness and honesty and not by force. Force will never solve anything, example are plenty. Look at Iraq and Israel, Peace will only come by honest communications and feeling for other as you do for yourself. Other wise whosoever has bigger gun will kill and dictate. But will never rule the hears and minds of people.

[HULK]

Brother, what we really need is a revolution and based on that educational reforms.

sirf kanoon bana dena kafi nahin jub tuk hum us kanoon ko samajhney walon ko paida nahin karaingey:)

aur aisa hamarey mulk main hoga nahin, kiyun ke koi honey nahin dega:)

ilaaj sirf wohi hai.........REVOLUTION:) ,.....and i know u r still against killing of peopel in the revolution but merey moazzaz bhai, aap dekhtey rahain, in near future it is inevitible:)

[ASQR]

Revolutions and wars have been treid many a times and these things brought more wars. Examples are world war 1 followed by world war 2 and it did not solve any problem. problems were solve when mankind decided to work together and create jobs, creates business.

Israel and palistenian fighting have not solved any thing, only more killings.

Pakistani and Indian wars have yet to solve anything. Now that both are willing to talk, it might just solve the problem.

So killing and war is not the answer. just healthy discussion based on groung realities will do the trick. Believe meit is the only way.

[HULK]

hain???

let me get this a bit more clearly.....are you totally against war or fights???

if so, then with all due respect, you are refusing to accept the spread of islam. You are in other words critisizing the actions taken by the Holy Prophet SAW and his followers???

What was the spread of islam my brother??
Wasnt it a revolution in its own way? What is the definition of revolution??
To me, it is a change. A change from the existing way of life to a new way of life, a better one.

That is what Islam bbrought. It seems to me that you are not only negating that, but are also contradicting the very spirit of islam, which may led me to ask you "Sir, are you a muslim?" :)

I know you may not get offended by this question, but trust me, everyone will wonder.

you are actually denying your own statement about "bhai chara" and "hope" etc. On one thread you are spreading the preaching to be more forgiving and believe in hope by hoping that these hukamraans will become better or the standard of living of the people in pakistan shall improve and on the other hand when I am "HOPEFUL" that everything will change with a REVOLUTION, you are denying it and implying that, "no revolution has solved anything"????

I mean so far I had difference of opinion with you but at least i knew you had a point. But today I am like, "my God, this person doesnt knwo what he is talking about"....

My dear brother, let me tell you one thing. If you are argueing just for the sake of it, ALLAH SWT doesnt like such people who argue just for the satisfaction of their ego and to win the arguement.

Chalo main manta hoon ke yaar aap theek ho jao behes aap jeet gae.........but if that was your moto, then you are sadly mistaken.

Islam had fights. Bloody fights in the beginning. Every Ghazwa brought ignition to the spread of islam, then how can you claim that WARS ONLY BRING MORE WARS????

That is what is termed as JIHAD in islam and if you are in denial of such islamic values, then my friend I for one, would consider debating and arguing with you totally futile.

[ASQR]

See that is where some of the Muslims misinterpret wars in Islam giving our enemies opertunity to criti cise us. Now let me tell here the way all the wars for Islam were fought of course with the exception of internal wars, meaning wars betweem Muslims.

Each war was not initiated by our great prophet, wars fought in defance of diplomacy to not to allow killers of massanger go unpunished, let me explain. all war were fought after our massanger were killed, we had to defend. in the case where our massanger were respecfully sent back we did not go to war. a case in point is Ethopia where the king listened to the massage and respecfully declined saying that being christian he has the massage from God delivered to him by Jesus. we did not fight. in each of the war we had to fight those who disrespected the Doplomatic norms and killed the massangers sent by Muslim Ameer-ul momaneens.

May Allah S.W.T. help us understand Islam properly. Ameen.

A common myth created is that when our masanger reached the heads of states to deliver massage, they were saying get ready to fight, or give jazia if u do not convert. this is far from truth, our massanger were never rude when they had the responsibility of delivering Allah's massage.

[point]

when ever war is imposed,forced or one tries to eleminate u,destroy ur people,desgrace ur people and when one tries to or is hurting brutally ur muslim brothers,then u got to react.
otherwise u dont have the right to invade,kill,capture others just for the sake of glory,power,satisfaction or winning converts.
and about guns wel i like em.these days chotay chotay kids abi school be khatam nahe kiya hota or on k sath/pass pistol hoti hy.they feel like they r the one.which is bohat sharam wali baat.and in our area u dont need a license to carry gun.

[ASQR]

When and if war is imposed, one should fight with all his might,but until than try all the avenue to make peace, do not let things come to a boiling point.

And that only happens starting with mis understanding, mis representations and lack of courage on the part of victim.

So those who speak and speak clearly and with facts usualy win it, may we should be loud mouths in this world, and that is not bad considering the other consequence of that of a war.