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Old 16-04-2008, 09:46 PM
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Kya Shairy karnay k liyey

I think we all enjoy poetry, infact some members write poetry themselvez... amazing...dont u think...?
I personally think, poetry is to lay-down the feelingz, aur yeh feelings kuch bhi ho sakti hein not necessarily the feelingz of love...
meray nazdeek yaqeenan shairy karnay k liyey kisi na fitri jazbay ki zarurat hoti hai... chahay koi insaan kitna bhi Muhabbat say inkaar karay magar her shakhs k andar Muhabbat ka fitri jazba mojood hota hai... aur us ka izhaar kisi bhi soorat kiya jasakta hai...

well my question is...Kya Shairy karnay k liyey Muhabbat ki zaroorat hai...

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Muhabbat karnay k liyey Shairy ki zarurat hai...
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shairri kay liY jazbaat ka mEhsOOs kErna zaroOri hOta hai!!!
shairri kay liY... apni soch ko side per rakh ker apnay lafzOn kO dheel daini parrti hai!
shairri kay liY... mOhabbat buhat chOutta wOrd hai Or mOhabbat k liY shairri!
Na shairri kabhi mOhabbat ki shidat bata sakti hai... Na mOhabbat shairi mEin shidat paida ker sakti hai!

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Hmm...

shairri kay liY jazbaat ka mEhsOOs kErna zaroOri hOta hai!!!
shairri kay liY... apni soch ko side per rakh ker apnay lafzOn kO dheel daini parrti hai!
shairri kay liY... mOhabbat buhat chOutta wOrd hai Or mOhabbat k liY shairri!
Na shairri kabhi mOhabbat ki shidat bata sakti hai... Na mOhabbat shairi mEin shidat paida ker sakti hai!

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goood answers.... well said :)
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goood answers.... well said :)
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BaabUl mEri itni Arazz sUnn lijO
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hamray around even khud ham main bohat se cheezain exist kerti hain. ham bohat se feelings rakhtay hain Jo apne type aur depth main different ho sakti hain mager hum un k wujod se inkar nahi ker saktay. Kise cheez ka acha lagna aur us ki tareef kerna Insan ka fitri amal hay aur Muhabbat bhi aisa hi Jazba hay Jo sab main paia Jata hay feraq sirf is ki type or depth main hay. Jo k relations se belong kerti hay.

Muhbbat kernay k liye shairi ki zaroorat nahi..... laken shairi Muhabbat k ahsas aur Izhaar ko khobsurat bana daiti hay.


shairi kernay k liye feelings ki zaroorat hay aur Muhabbat feelings ka dosera naam hay.feraq sirf itna hay k Muhabbat ki Forms n relations different hotay haIn. mager kaheen na kaheen exist kerti hay in Jazbon main. chahay woh kise special one k liye hon. apne Rab k liye yah apne watan k liye mager Is Jazbay ko naam aak hi dia Jata hay.
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Na mOhabbat shairi mEin shidat paida ker sakti hai!

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Main aap se Is baat pe agree nahi Kerti MaYa. Muhabbat shairi main shidat payda ker sakti hay. aak aise cheez Jo aap aap feel kiye bina likh rahay hain us main woh shidat nahi ho gi Jo us cheez main ho gi Jise aap shidat se feel keran yah Jo aap k ander bohat ziydaa pai Jaye.
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Main aap se Is baat pe agree nahi Kerti MaYa. Muhabbat shairi main shidat payda ker sakti hay. aak aise cheez Jo aap aap feel kiye bina likh rahay hain us main woh shidat nahi ho gi Jo us cheez main ho gi Jise aap shidat se feel keran yah Jo aap k ander bohat ziydaa pai Jaye.
very good point...
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Main aap se Is baat pe agree nahi Kerti MaYa. Muhabbat shairi main shidat payda ker sakti hay. aak aise cheez Jo aap aap feel kiye bina likh rahay hain us main woh shidat nahi ho gi Jo us cheez main ho gi Jise aap shidat se feel keran yah Jo aap k ander bohat ziydaa pai Jaye.
hmmm...

Aap kO kya lagta hai jO chEEz mEhsOos ki jaye wOh mOhabbat hai? mEhsOos tu Nafrat bhi ki jati hai! aap kO kya lagta hai... mOhabbat ka Ehsaas hi us ki takmeel ka baiss hai? Na! Ehsaas ki wEhshat buhat jagha mEhsOos kEr paain gi aap! Or rahi baat mOhabbat agar shairi mEin shidat paida kEr sakti yaa phir kisi ki shairi kisi kO us ki mOhabbat ki shidat ka Ehsaas dila sakti Tu shayad lOgOn ki shairi mEin mOhabbat lafz kay sath matam na kiya jata! Agar mOhabbat aap ki shairi mEin shidat paida kEr sakti tu shayad aaj kOi bhi shair Hurt na hOta jissy wOh likE karta wOh aaj us kay sath hOta! Main ne tu aisi pOEms bhi parhi hain jO insaan ki rOoh kO larza dain... pEr kya aap kO lagta hai kay jis kay liY wOh likhi gai hOngi... us ki rOoh pEr farQ parra hOga? Or agar parra hOga Tu phir aisi pOEm likhi hi kyOn gai? mOhabbat "NasEEb" hai-!
Or shairi... rOoh ki awaaz! Aap kabhi apni rOoh ki awaaz kO nasEEb kay hathOn sOnp nahi saktay !
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BaabUl mEri itni Arazz sUnn lijO
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BaabUl mEri itni Arazz sUnn lijO
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bina mohabbat k shairy ho jati hai...or shairy b bina mohabat k ho jati hai !
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Main aap se Is baat pe agree nahi Kerti MaYa. Muhabbat shairi main shidat payda ker sakti hay. aak aise cheez Jo aap aap feel kiye bina likh rahay hain us main woh shidat nahi ho gi Jo us cheez main ho gi Jise aap shidat se feel keran yah Jo aap k ander bohat ziydaa pai Jaye.
hmmm... i dnt really agree...
aap muhabbat ki shiddat feel kiye baghai .. ya even khud muhabbat kiye baghair bhi shaeri ker sakte hain.....
shairi kelie chot khana zaroori hai... i dnt belive in it ... :)
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bina mohabbat k shairy ho jati hai...or shairy b bina mohabat k ho jati hai !
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hmmm...

Aap kO kya lagta hai jO chEEz mEhsOos ki jaye wOh mOhabbat hai? mEhsOos tu Nafrat bhi ki jati hai! aap kO kya lagta hai... mOhabbat ka Ehsaas hi us ki takmeel ka baiss hai? Na! Ehsaas ki wEhshat buhat jagha mEhsOos kEr paain gi aap! Or rahi baat mOhabbat agar shairi mEin shidat paida kEr sakti yaa phir kisi ki shairi kisi kO us ki mOhabbat ki shidat ka Ehsaas dila sakti Tu shayad lOgOn ki shairi mEin mOhabbat lafz kay sath matam na kiya jata! Agar mOhabbat aap ki shairi mEin shidat paida kEr sakti tu shayad aaj kOi bhi shair Hurt na hOta jissy wOh likE karta wOh aaj us kay sath hOta! Main ne tu aisi pOEms bhi parhi hain jO insaan ki rOoh kO larza dain... pEr kya aap kO lagta hai kay jis kay liY wOh likhi gai hOngi... us ki rOoh pEr farQ parra hOga? Or agar parra hOga Tu phir aisi pOEm likhi hi kyOn gai? mOhabbat "NasEEb" hai-!
Or shairi... rOoh ki awaaz! Aap kabhi apni rOoh ki awaaz kO nasEEb kay hathOn sOnp nahi saktay !
First of all I wanna Clarify one thing... yahan examples bohat se dee Ja sakti thein mager yahan Muhabbat aur shairi ki baat ho rahe hay so main ne unhee words ko use kia. Miss Maya main ne baat ki hay aak Jazbay ki (Jo k Muhabbat bhi ho sakta hay cuz this's topic) doseri baat aap ne ki the shidat ki. aap ne kaha hay k ager Mohabbat mehsos ki ja sakti hay tu nafrat bhi ki Ja sakti hay. No doubt abt it. I said earlier in my previous reply k Hamari feelings ki types n Depths Different hote hain laken Is ka matlab yah nahi k woh Hum main exist nahi kertin. baat sirf yah hay k ham Kis had tak, kis tareeqay se aur Kis k liye Un feelings ko explore kertay hain......

ager aap Nafrat ki baat kerti hain Tu kia Muhabbat k baad Nafrat us ka reaction nahi hota in many cases?

main aab yahan apne views nahi Likhon gi.. main ne bohat se logo se suna hay k Shairi feelings ka dosera naam hay aur Muhabbat feel kernay k cheez hay. so wht's the common in Both? Obviously "feelings" (That i also did mention in my previous reply) aab rahe baat "shidat" ki tu yahan bhi aap ko Topic se hat ker aak example dena chahon gi.... ager aap Patient ko fever nahi hay tu kia Tharmametor us k fever ko show keray ga? aur ager aak patient ko 103 fever hay tu kia us ka Temprature Normal show ho ga? Never. fever ki shidat wohe ho gee Jo us k ander hay.

Doseri example. aise countless sufia karam hain. Jinhon ne poetry likhi kia unhon ne Allah k Ishq ko mehsos kiye baghair Likhi? kia yah sach nahi k Ishq-e-Mijazi Ishq-e- haqeeqi tak rasai hay? tu kia yah sab mehsos kiye bina likha Jata hay...... Kia naat Ishq-e-rasool main nahi likhi Jati? Jo log Ghulami ki zaindgi main azeet mehsos kertay hain woh unhain apne shairy main likhtay hain. aur hamray aise poets hain Jinhon ne apne watan ki Muhabbat ko shidat se mehsos kia aur utnee hi depth main likha aur yah depthness show hote hay un k words se.

kia In words ka hamray dil pe koi aser nahi hota. aap sirf kaghaz kalam lay ker baith Jain tu kia aap aise cheez likh saktay hain Jise aap ne kabhe feel na kia ho?

aap ne khud kaha hay k aise poems bhi perhi hain Jo roh ko larza daiti hain tu aisaa kyun hota hay aap k sath? kyun k ap ne use mehsos kia hay us ki shidat ko khud main mehsos kia so us ka aser aap pe hua.


I sory to say again..... Insan Ka her Jazba feelings ka Muhtaz hay woh acha ho yah bura aur feelings ki shidat ki base pe hi woh Jazba kam yah ziydaa hota hay. I hope u got my pOint..
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hmm...

Miss Khan aap shayad bhOOl rahi hain kay yahan baat kisi jazbay kO fEEl kErnay ki nahi bal kay sirf itni baat hO rahi hai kay... "Kya Shairy karnay k liyey Muhabbat ki zaroorat hai..."

"ager aap Nafrat ki baat kerti hain Tu kia Muhabbat k baad Nafrat us ka reaction nahi hota in many cases? "

hmm Mam actuallY, jO mOhabbat nafrat mEin changE hO jaye do u think wOh jazba "mOhabbat" kEhlanay k laaiQ hai? mOhabbat kabhi changE nahi hOti chahay uss ki shidat kuch bhi hO... baat sirf itni hai kay mOhabbat suchi hO!TimE pass nafrat mEin zarOOr badal sakta hai mOhabbat nahi!sO Mam Hum yEh kahain gEy kay mOhabbat sirf mOhabbat rEhti hai kabhi changEs nahi aaty !

"main aab yahan apne views nahi Likhon gi.. main ne bohat se logo se suna hay k Shairi feelings ka dosera naam hay aur Muhabbat feel kernay k cheez hay"

hmm... aap nE kis sE sunn lia kay shairi mOhabbat ka dOsra naam hai? Yaani aap kEhna chah rahi hain kay "hEr shair ki hEr nazam sirf mOhabbat ki mOhtaaj hai?' yaani agar wOh kisi sE mOhabbat nahi kErta tOu kuch Bhi likh nahi paayE ga? nO way... aap rEad karain aap kO buhat c pOEms milain gi jis mEin shayad mOhabbat ka zikEr bhi na hO! yEh parhiyE... yEh mEry fav pOEt hain...

" Mera Noha Inhi Galiyon Ki Hawa Likhe Gi "

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Mam, batain kahan hai iss mEin "mOhabbat" ka jazzba? pEr yEh pOEm mujhy buhat passand hai! yEh pOET Gr8 hain shayad hi inkay jaisa kisi ne likha hO! Iss pOEm mein kaheen bhi "mOhabbat" wOrd usE nahi hOa sirf Eik "UmEEd" shOw ki gai hai! aap nE kaha shairi kay liY mOhabbat zarOOri hai... tOu phir yEh pOEm wajOOd mein kaisay aai?

"aab rahe baat "shidat" ki tu yahan bhi aap ko Topic se hat ker aak example dena chahon gi.... ager aap Patient ko fever nahi hay tu kia Tharmametor us k fever ko show keray ga? aur ager aak patient ko 103 fever hay tu kia us ka Temprature Normal show ho ga? Never. fever ki shidat wohe ho gee Jo us k ander hay."

hmm Mam, aap ki ExamplE theek hai pEr Kabhi ghOur kijiyE ga... "Kuch lOg dunYa mein aisay bhi hain jO apnay jazbOn kis shidat Dunya kay samnay nahi laaty" Or kuch "aisay bhi hain jO AndEr hi AndEr ghutt kEr marr rahay hain" Or kuch "lOgOn kO apnay jazbOn kO biyaan kErnay k liY wOrds nahi miltay" tOu kya kahain gia ap aisay lOgOn kO kay jO "Izhaar na kEr paye apni shairi mEin apni mOhabbat ki shidat ka kya unhOn nE kabhi mOhabbat ki hi nahi?"Jazbay kabhi Izhaar kay mOhtaaj nahi hOtay Mam, pEr kEhlaatay jazbay hi hain! Apni shidat pEr Qaaim!

"aise poets hain Jinhon ne apne watan ki Muhabbat ko shidat se mehsos kia aur utnee hi depth main likha aur yah depthness show hote hay un k words se."

Mam, Mujhy yEh baat samjh nahi aati kay agar dEpthnEss wOrds sE shOw hOnay lagay tOu shayad hi kOi shaair apni mOhabbat pEr matam kay ashaar likhay! Us shaair kay wOrds mEin jab itni pOWer hai tOu kyOn wOh Dukh bhari pOEmz likh raha hai... ussy tOu zarOOrEt hi nahi parrni chahiyE thi... kyOn kay jab us nE kisi sE mOhabbat ki tOu us kay wOrds nE usska sath tOu dia hOga na? kashhh MAM aik mOhabbat kErnay wala shakhs apnay lafzOn ki gEhrai sE kisi kO apni mOhabbat ka yaQeen Dila sakta!

"kia In words ka hamray dil pe koi aser nahi hota. aap sirf kaghaz kalam lay ker baith Jain tu kia aap aise cheez likh saktay hain Jise aap ne kabhe feel na kia ho?"

Miss Khan main khud Likhti hOn... Or aap shayad yaQeen na karain... Main kabhi fEEl kEr kay kuch nahi likhti... Bas papEr pakra Or Eik pEn Or wOrds ka Eik darya bEh nikalta hai! sEcOndl;Y yEh kay "Shaairi ki aamad hOti hai na kay aap sOch sOch kay mEhsOos kEr kay Likhtay hain"


"I sory to say again..... Insan Ka her Jazba feelings ka Muhtaz hay woh acha ho yah bura aur feelings ki shidat ki base pe hi woh Jazba kam yah ziydaa hota hay. I hope u got my pOint.."


Insaan ka hEr jazba fEElings ka mOhtaaj hai r u surE? aap phir un lOgOn kay jazbOn kO kya kahain gi jO mOhabbat ki aar mEin TimE pass kartay hain? zarOOri nahi jO mEhsOos kiya jayE wOh jazba hi hO... wOh lOg tOu jazbOn sE khaali hain phir bhi mOhabbat kay daaway kErty phirtay hain! shayad aap samjh sakain main kya keh rahi hOn!

Regards,
MaYa
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Shairy ke liye sab se pehli cheez knowledge hai,

kiunke jazbaat to har kisi ke hotey hain lekin un ko bayaan karnay ka hunar jo hai us ka naam hai shayeri

aur wo hunar knowledge se aye ga

thats wot i think,

personally like to write funny poetry
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Shiery wakt barbar karne ka tareeka hai .... simple.....

poetry lovers se request hai practical life main ayein.. aur kuch eysa kr k dikhayein ke ap duniya main pehchana ja sake... poets ko sirf ..potery ki mehfil main hi yaad kya jata hai :)

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