[La Ha$!L]

Asalam-o-alikum..

I dont know Other Muslims But I have Noticed Thats there are So many Things .. which pakistanis being muslims muslims suppose to do BUt they Dont.. aur Ghair Muslims woh Kaam Karte hain... Class system har jagah Hoty HOgy magar Jis Tarha hamaray Culture me Ye cheez aam hai us tarha har jagah nahi hai... western Countries me ameron aur ghareebO k bachay aik saath paRh Bhi saktay hain...aur shadi bi HO jaty hai... jab K pakistan me.. Jin schools aur colleges me AmerOn k bachay jatay hain... (fast and lUms etc) Un me Middle class K Bachay nai ja saktay.. Bcoz woh afford hi nahi kar saktay... jab risshtay karnay Ki baat aaty hai tau wahan bi amer gharebo k baray main sochtay tak nahi... har banda apnay brabar k ya apnay se onchay k baray main Hi sochta hai... ameer Khud ko bahtar samjhtay hain.. jab K islam main kaha GYa hai ksii KO kisi par bartari hasil nahi siway Takwa ki bunyaad par.. tau KUon Itnay faaslay Barh Chukay hain?... aisay aur Bohat se kaam hain JO muslims nay shuru kiye aur aaj ghair muslims woh kaam kamyabi se chala rahay hain... aur khush haal hain... as we all hav heard In Uk and Europe side.. they give money for children when they born Till 16 years of age i gues.. doesn't it help alot? woh parents JIn ki income zyada nahi woh bi apnay bachOn k liye achi wese hi cheezain khared saktay hain jesi dosrai LOg use kartE hon... jab K Pakistan mein .. Presidents aur Prime ministers apnay Oper lakHon kharch kartE hain.. Giv k paisOn se apnay sath sath apnI famIlies kO mOjain Karwatay hain ... aur ghareeBOn ko pochtay bi nahi... JO ghareeb paida howa woh most Likely ghareeb Hi rah jata hai... Its Very hard To move farward in this situation.. agar HUm Muslims bajay ghalat chezain western society se copy karne k ...achi cheezain lain.. tau Jo zawal hamaray mulk par aa raha hai woh shayad khatam Ho jai..... aap ka Kya khayal hai is baray main.?? Dp U agree witH me? Or disagree ..and why? PLz share Ur thOughts in this issue.

[Kool Guy]

well totally agree wid u ... Paki nature is totally different... balkay i will say Nature of Asian people is different... they just wanna b top on the world.. with out any mehnat... just want to show others that they are better.. n dosron ko apnay say neecha dikhanay ki koshish kerain gay hamesha...
N jahan tak culture adopt kernay ki baat hai to its very difficult now to pick good things ... cuz jo baatain shuroo say mind may baithi hoi hain woh nikali nahi jasaktin asaani say ... ab jo new generation arahi hai ... un k dimag may good things bithayi jayain frm begening.. yani jab say woh sochnay samajhnay k qabil hotay hain to.. future generations bhi achi hi hongi... wht do u say ??

[freeek]

I agree with u sis... In fact aisay institutes for instance, LUMS, Aitchison etc.... main pehlay apko apnay a/c main balance show kerna hota hai k itna ho k app kabhi fee denay say na reh jao Aitchison main app ager apna bacha admit kerwa rahay ho to apni personal car or bank balance show kerna must hai.....after wards shadi... status dekh k hi hoti hai ager compatible na ho to .... no love no nothing... adhi say zyada shadion main couples dont love each other they jus tolerate each other... or her kaam main dekha jata hai k ghar kahan pe hai or car konsi hai apkay paas.... aah ! this is our society where caliber doesnt dominate but power of money DO ! or waQi outside Pakistan ye sab nai hai... they nvr feel guilt for being poor or else.....! lekin rich udher bhi supress kertay hain poor ko but not that much like in Pakistan....!

[NonSense]

Thats call Double Standard...

I think not only in Pakistan but in Asia you would say.. there the class system rules more than western countries..

In our culture partents rules on their kids lives more than kid themselves but in western once kids get pass or cross 18 years they are their own and live their lives according to their will and rules.

In our culture we thinks money is everything and with it they can do anything andcan get all they desire.

In west if you can pay fees you can study any good school/university you want but in our culture if you are not eligible but you have power and money you only need a phone call and money to get in and you can sit on any other's chair if it does belong to a poor person.

In west parents doesnt interfere in your personal life, if you want to get married you just simply tell or introduce your parents to your partner and they just have dinner/lunch together or to any other occasion and settle the marriage date, however in our culture if you are sindhi, then you need a sindhi partner same with punjabi and other casts, moreover if you are poor sorry dude you cant do love as you have no license or you have to be rich enough to control the circumstances, because they comes first in your life before marriage, even if poor and rich partners get married then their parents start creating hurdles to break marriage.. sorry this is what we are.

Thats the reason WE MUSLIMS are more in trouble than WEST NON-MUSLIMS, we are not developed because of these stupid things, we have so much time to do interfere in other's lives and we always think ourselves right and other are stupid.

WE MUSLIMS doesnt have patience and cant wait, if we have to wait we feel insult and try to call some person to get your work done by crook.

We MUSLIMS need to believe there is a judgement day and we have to go thru it, where we will regret OH what have we done, wish we did it in right way.

We always believe in short term instead of long term circumstances.

Our problem is just to get thing done not RIGHT!

[La Ha$!L]

Originally Posted by Kool Guy

well totally agree wid u ... Paki nature is totally different... balkay i will say Nature of Asian people is different... they just wanna b top on the world.. with out any mehnat... just want to show others that they are better.. n dosron ko apnay say neecha dikhanay ki koshish kerain gay hamesha...
N jahan tak culture adopt kernay ki baat hai to its very difficult now to pick good things ... cuz jo baatain shuroo say mind may baithi hoi hain woh nikali nahi jasaktin asaani say ... ab jo new generation arahi hai ... un k dimag may good things bithayi jayain frm begening.. yani jab say woh sochnay samajhnay k qabil hotay hain to.. future generations bhi achi hi hongi... wht do u say ??

THnx mutafiq honay k liye ..:)
aur BIlkUl sahi kaha .. aaj bhi agar HUm KHud ko abdalain tau aaj se 30 saal baad result samnay aayga magar hum bus soch rahay hain... achai ki taraf kadam barhay ga kon.. hamaray jese aam banday k hath main kuch nahi hai... Government kuch karty nahi hai siway aaish karnay k..

[La Ha$!L]

Originally Posted by freeek

I agree with u sis... In fact aisay institutes for instance, LUMS, Aithion etc.... main pehlay apko apnay a/c main balance show kerna hota hai k itna ho k app kabhi fee denay say na reh jao Aithison main app ager apna bacha admit kerwa rahay ho to apni personal car or bank balance show kerna must hai.....after wards shadi... status dekh k hi hoti hai ager compatible na ho to .... no love no nothing... adhi say zyada shadion main couples dont love each other they jus tolerate each other... or her kaam main dekha jata hai k ghar kahan pe hai or car konsi hai apkay paas.... aah ! this is our society where caliber doesnt dominate but power of money DO ! or waQi outside Pakistan ye sab nai hai... they nvr feel guilt for being poor ko else.....! lekin rich udher bhi supress kertay hain poor but not that much like in Pakistan....!

very right.
pakistan main tau aik lakeer khichi hoi hai ameer aur ghareeb k darmyaan..
mainay dekha hai ameer rishtadar apnay ghareeb bhanji /bhatiji ka rishta mangnay ka sochtay bhi nahi... chahay un k haan family main hi shadi karnay ka rawaj ho. woh bahir ameer dhondnay lagaingay magar ghareeb ki bachi ko ghar lana gunah samjhain gay lol..akhir un ko bhi ghar jahaiz ki chezon se bharna hai !

[La Ha$!L]

Originally Posted by NonSense

Thats call Double Standard...

I think not only in Pakistan but in Asia you would say.. there the class system rules more than western countries..

In our culture partents rules on their kids lives more than kid themselves but in western once kids get pass or cross 18 years they are their own and live their lives according to their will and rules.

In our culture we thinks money is everything and with it they can do anything andcan get all they desire.

In west if you can pay fees you can study any good school/university you want but in our culture if you are not eligible but you have power and money you only need a phone call and money to get in and you can sit on any other's chair if it does belong to a poor person.

In west parents doesnt interfere in your personal life, if you want to get married you just simply tell or introduce your parents to your partner and they just have dinner/lunch together or to any other occasion and settle the marriage date, however in our culture if you are sindhi, then you need a sindhi partner same with punjabi and other casts, moreover if you are poor sorry dude you cant do love as you have no license or you have to be rich enough to control the circumstances, because they comes first in your life before marriage, even if poor and rich partners get married then their parents start creating hurdles to break marriage.. sorry this is what we are.

Thats the reason WE MUSLIMS are more in trouble than WEST NON-MUSLIMS, we are not developed because of these stupid things, we have so much time to do interfere in other's lives and we always think ourselves right and other are stupid.

WE MUSLIMS doesnt have patience and cant wait, if we have to wait we feel insult and try to call some person to get your work done by crook.

We MUSLIMS need to believe there is a judgement day and we have to go thru it, where we will regret OH what have we done, wish we did it in right way.

We always believe in short term instead of long term circumstances.

Our problem is just to get thing done not RIGHT!

Hmmmmmmmm first of all thnx for replying.. it was UR idea to make separate thread on this issue if U remember? I Hope i made this thread as u wanted.. did I touch those topics? u r most welcome to bring forth points to discuss
ermmmm... i dont know in what sense u said parents rule our lives in asia.. I agree they do..and in my opinion..they Should Rule on Us Mere khayal se insan kiisi bhi age main bhatak sakta hai... 30+ bhi gahlat kamon main par sakta hai.. u always need someone sincere to guide u and tell you what is Right and Good For u. You might find a sincere friend but they are hard to find. I think this is good thing in Us asians. However, parents should let us choose our career mostly parents say Doc bano ..doc Bano.. mera aik hi beta hai Doc nahi bana.. science parho.. etc same problem in Indians they push their children to go for science even when kids are Not interested .. aisa nahi hona chahiye.. parents should let decide their children what they want to b working as for the rest of their life..
bilkul sahi kaha..ye bi aik BIMARI hai.. k hum tau URDU speaking hai.. falan punjabi hai... honestly speaking... i felt that some ppl from khi just hate punjabis.. and they give different reasons aik larki mujahy net par Mili.. UFfff woh jab bi on aaty.. punjabiyo k khilaaf bolty jaty bolty jaty i felt sad .. kitna zeher bhara hai.. pata nahi kisnay bhara hai .. i hav seen so many ppl like this.. same thing with Punjabis.. they call with different names.. thats How we are raised
pata nahi equality kab aaygi hamaray culture main.. LOg KHud ko bahtar samajhna kab chorean gay..